Rift with Karzai worsen as Nato air strike kills 95,

Deadly attack undermines politicians’ attempts to convince public opinion that war in Afghanistan is worth fighting

By Kim Sengupta in Kabul and David Usborne

Western forces were engulfed in bitter controversy yesterday after Nato air strikes on two oil tankers hijacked by the Taliban in northern Afghanistan led to carnage with a fireball killing 95 people, dozens of them civilians.

The civilian toll: Innocent victims

  December 2001

 The US is accused of killing around 100 civilians in a reported attack on the village of Qalaye Niazi.

 *October 2006

 According to claims by Afghan officials, an erring Nato air strike in Kandahar province kills at least 60 civilians.

*June 2007

Air strikes in Helmand province kill up to 80 people, according to claims by locals.

*November 2008

 A wedding party in Shah Wali Kot in Kandahar province is reportedly bombed by a US plane, with around 40 civilians, including 23 children, killed, according to witnesses from the village of Wech Baghtu.

 *May 2009

 Villages in western Farah province are bombed by US planes, in an attack which, an investigation conducted by the Afghan government concludes, killed 140. The US military claims the figure is lower.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/rift-with-karzai-worsen-as-nato-air-strike-kills-95-1782090.html 

Of course this is just the tip of the iceberg………………

WHAT HAS AFGHANISTAN DONE TO US THAT DESERVES THIS?!?! CERTAINLY NOT 911!!

WE ARE FIGHTING IN THESE PEOPLES COUNTRIES AND THEY DO NOT WANT US THERE, CAN YOU NOT TAKE A HINT?!?!!?

TO THE SOLDIERS ,YOU ARE NOT MAKING YOUR “LOVED ONES” SAFER  BY YOUR ACTIONS , YOU ARE CREATING MORE TERRORISTS AND GIVING THESE PEOPLE A GOOD REASON TO HATE US!! YOU ARE NOT HEROES YOU ARE THUG TERRORISTS IN UNIFORMS!!!

PLEASE STOP AND COME HOME!!

ONE MANS TERRORIST IS ANOTHER MANS FREEDOM FIGHTER!!

While these people fight IN THIER COUNTRY ,WE ARE WRONG!!

UNLESS we know they where a threat to your loved ones…………………..

May 1, 2005

The secret Downing Street memo

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SECRET AND STRICTLY PERSONAL – UK EYES ONLY

DAVID MANNING
From: Matthew Rycroft
Date: 23 July 2002
S 195 02

cc: Defence Secretary, Foreign Secretary, Attorney-General, Sir Richard Wilson, John Scarlett, Francis Richards, CDS, C, Jonathan Powell, Sally Morgan, Alastair Campbell

IRAQ: PRIME MINISTER’S MEETING, 23 JULY

Copy addressees and you met the Prime Minister on 23 July to discuss Iraq.

This record is extremely sensitive. No further copies should be made. It should be shown only to those with a genuine need to know its contents.

reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime’s record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.

CDS said that military planners would brief CENTCOM on 1-2 August, Rumsfeld on 3 August and Bush on 4 August.

The two broad US options were:

(a) Generated Start. A slow build-up of 250,000 US troops, a short (72 hour) air campaign, then a move up to Baghdad from the south. Lead time of 90 days (30 days preparation plus 60 days deployment to Kuwait).

(b) Running Start. Use forces already in theatre (3 x 6,000), continuous air campaign, initiated by an Iraqi casus belli. Total lead time of 60 days with the air campaign beginning even earlier. A hazardous option.

The US saw the UK (and Kuwait) as essential, with basing in Diego Garcia and Cyprus critical for either option. Turkey and other Gulf states were also important, but less vital. The three main options for UK involvement were:

(i) Basing in Diego Garcia and Cyprus, plus three SF squadrons.

(ii) As above, with maritime and air assets in addition.

(iii) As above, plus a land contribution of up to 40,000, perhaps with a discrete role in Northern Iraq entering from Turkey, tying down two Iraqi divisions.

The Defence Secretary said that the US had already begun “spikes of activity” to put pressure on the regime. No decisions had been taken, but he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

The Attorney-General said that the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action. There were three possible legal bases: self-defence, humanitarian intervention, or UNSC authorisation. The first and second could not be the base in this case. Relying on UNSCR 1205 of three years ago would be difficult. The situation might of course change.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece

Even as the Bush presidency winds down, a recent Senate investigation final report shows how the administration manipulated information to overstate the WMD threat and conjure up a connection between Saddam Hussein and Al Quaida that did not exist.

A majority of the American people now believes that the president intentionally misled our nation into war, and many more believe the sacrifice made in Iraq has not been worthwhile

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WHERE NO THREAT TO “THE WEST” AND BUSH AND BLAIR KNEW IT!!!!

US AND UK SOLDIERS YOU FIGHT TO MAKE YOUR LOVED ONE LESS SAFE BY YOUR ACTIONS ,or do you think in the same BUT REVERSE situation you would just let the slaughter of YOUR LOVED ONES GO UNPUNISHED??

THATS WHY WE DO NOT COME OUT AND WELCOME YOU HOME ,YOU ARE NOT HEROES YOU ARE A STEP AWAY FROM TERRORISTS!!!! a very short step IMO!

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