Hiroshima 65 years on…NO apologies , but have we learnt our lesson?

Hiroshima

It was 65 years ago that the first (and hopefully last) atomic bombs where dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and brought WWII to its obvious conclusion.

THE PANORAMIC VIEW OF HIROSHIMA AFTER THE BOMB

http://i.imgur.com/Ii7dE.jpg

    Was this a war crime? YES , probably. It was targetting civilians areas . Was it done for political rather than miltary reasons ? Yet again YES. It was done to impress the Soviet Russians, Japan was already desperate to surrender as it saw its postion hopeless.

    So should the west apologise for this devastation? NO!!!

Life is a series of lessons, some we learn the HARD WAY!! In this case an extremely hard way for the Japanese, but hopefully the rest of the world will also learn by this lesson . Should we apologise to the Germans post 1945? We raped thier women and stole what we wanted and left thier men to starve! LESSON?…….. PAYBACK IS A BITCH!!

Had the “good Germans” managed to bring down the Nazi regime then there would of been NO raping of women and stealing and leaving men to die. It is the same with the Japanese and thier emperial ,racial superior desires. 10 million Chinese where put in Japanese death camps ,56 survived !!! (my step-mother is Chinese).Another example that Japan is unclear about apologising for is The Sandakan Death Marches were a series of forced marches from Sandakan to Ranau which resulted in the deaths of more than 3,600 Indonesian civilian slave labourers and 2,400 Allied prisoners of war held captive by the Empire of Japan during the Pacific campaign of World War II at prison camps in North Borneo. By the end of the war, of all the prisoners who had been incarcerated at Sandakan and Ranau, only 6 Australians survived, all of whom had escaped. It is widely considered to be the single worst atrocity suffered by Australian servicemen during the Second World War .To these people,defeated Germans and Japanese, they only have to look in each others eyes, and figure out what THEY HAD DONE TO OTHER PEOPLE in supportting THIER REGIME that brought this fate on thier heads!!! So sorry no sympathy or apology here guys!!

My uncle was in a Japanese prisoner of war camp. My memories of him include very vitriolic rants against Japanese, even in built up public areas with Japanese present. My family NEVER APOLOGISED for his behaviour!!! We understood what he had been put through, even though he still could never bring himself to talk about everything. As far as I know WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN OFFICIAL APOLOGY FROM THE JAPANESE!!!! So do NOT BLUB TO ME ABOUT HIROSHIMA!!!…. as I said Payback is a Bitch , and you will NOT find the word “over-reaction” in its dictionary!!

These people stood by as thier regime slaughtered MILLIONS. So later the world stood by as they too where slaughtered!!! If we wanted to “even the score” how many MORE BOMBS should we have dropped on Japan to make up for 10 million Chinese , 8 millions Javanese and 1 million or so European, American , ANZAC, Indian ,Ghurka and Commonwealth nation deaths in thier JAPANESE DEATH CAMPS!! They where a hell of a worse than Germans prison camps.Japanese prisoner-of-war camps, many of which were used as labour camps, also had high death rates. The International Military Tribunal for the Far East found the death rate of Western prisoners was 27.1 percent (for American POWs, 37 percent),[217] seven times that of POW’s under the Germans and Italians[218] The death rate among Chinese POWs was much larger;
10 million Chinese were mobilized by the Japanese army and enslaved by the Koa-in for slave labor in Manchukuo and north China.[221] Chinese were no longer protected under international law.[219] While 37,583 prisoners from the UK, 28,500 from the,Netherlands and 14,473 from United States were released after the surrender of Japan, the number for the Chinese was only 56
The U.S. Library of Congress estimates that in Java, between 4 and 10 million romusha (Japanese: “manual laborer”), were forced to work by the Japanese military. About 270,000 of these Javanese laborers were sent to other Japanese-held areas in South East Asia. Only 52,000 were repatriated to Java, meaning that there was a death rate of 80%

75,000 deaths in Nagasaki ,that is slightly LESS than the amount of POWs and civilian prisoners that died building ONE JAPANESE RAILROAD!!! They should thank us for only dropping 2 bombs !!!! There’s no justice  ,there’s just us! The people responsible and thier victims are almost all dead ,the children do NOT carry thier fathers sins ,so no apologies are expected from them,only that LESSONS ARE LEARNT!!

Let me make this clear ,I am NOT condoning or excusing the deaths of 225,000 people in an atomic atrocity,it was a war crime and victors justice.But actually if a land invasion had happened ,a lot more death rape and destruction would probably have been the result. Germany would of been a “cake run ” compared ! After liberating Japanese POW death camps where every person had been starved to death , or shot or burned alive to save on bullets!!
U.S. medical men are attempting to identify more than 100 American Prisoners of War captured at Bataan and Corregidor and burned alive by the Japanese at a Prisoner of War camp, Puerto Princesa, Palawan, Philippine Islands Picture shows charred remains being interred in grave., 03/20/1945
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BurnedAtBaatan.gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_Death_March
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandakan_Death_Marches
The average US/UK miltary person wanted nothing more than to kill every Japanese person at that time.”stay on the job until every murdering Jap is wiped out” Was the theme….. The average GI Joe would of happily atomic carpet bombed Japan!! If China had invented “the bomb”they too ,would of,most likely, wiped Japan off the map!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anti-Japan2.png
The Japanese miltary was mad enough to refuse to surrender,they where the main reason why Japan had NOT “officially” surrendered by the time the second bomb dropped!!A land invasion would of been a bloodbath!!!

ALL I am saying is the people that should of apologised on both sides are long dead. Some ,on both sides, have made personal attempts at reconciliation and making peace and laying ghosts to rest .Most took thier grief,nightmares and anger to the grave.

An empty apology from those years removed from the actual events will not bring anyone back or make the events less atrocious, and the survivors are nearly all dead now anyway, so who would the apology be from, and too? Its all a bit late for that now….
Todays generations of Japanese have nothing to apologise for, we have manged to live together in relative peace.
BUT todays generations in the US and UK may have some serious apologising for Iraq and Afghanistan!!
WE MUST ALL LEARN TO REIGN IN OUR GOVERNMENT REGIMES!!
It is our governments that tell us lies and send us out to commit slaughter.The Japanese where not evil ,they where led astray by evil ,megalomaniacs,made to believe absurdities ,so they could commit atrocities, if it can happen to them it can happen to us!!If fact I believe it is happening to us right now!!!

THE REAL LESSON TO BE LEARNT

Is to question our own regimes and what they are doing to other people in our name ! Because if we don’t and our “good guys” let our regimes murder and rape and steal then one day ,we too will have ONE BITCH OF A PAYBACK!!! and all we can then do is look in each others eyes and wonder how we could of let this happen, …are we too going to claim “We didn’t know!!” because that would be just pathetic and well as a LIE!!!

Today in my international lifestyle ,I have good friends including Germans and Japanese. Sins of the father are NOT sins of the son . These generations have learned from thier forefathers mistakes, we in the west have NOT!! Today they see the world clearer than most of the rest of us. Why do you think it was Germany and Japan that have been the industrial power houses of the 20th century? They lost the war ,BUT THEY LEARNED THIER LESSON! They looked at the old regimes and saw them for what they where ,corrupt and self-serving. In the West we just kept these out-dated, self-serving, corrupt regimes in power. The Germans and Japanese then could put in place new regimes better suited for the modern 20th century, of course under the careful supervision of the west…….. Of course these new regimes have also become corrupt and self-serving , they may have been new regimes but they where still regimes ,therefore authoritarian in nature and doomed to corruption. Its time for Germany and Japan as well as the rest of the world to shake off thier old ,out-dated , self-serving, corrupt ,state capitalist regimes ,before the system starts repeating!

Today the very same Western powers are carrying out just as bad war crimes against innocent nations and peoples across the globe.An example being Falluja in Iraq which is more polluted than Hiroshima post bomb!!! Are the “good westerners” going to stop these regimes? OR will we ALL have to wait for a BITCH OF A PAYBACK that cares nothing if you where a god westerner or a bad one?

DUMB DUMB DUMB.. Our Western out-dated, self-serving ,corrupt regimes are foaming at the mouth to attack Iran!!!! Of course that’s just the politions that would NOT be anywhere near a danger zone and have the very best in nuclear fallout shelters to cower in. It is people like YOU and ME that would be on the recieving end of this PAYBACK!!! It will be these very same politions that would sign away our rights and property and even our lives if they where to see this payback and want to AVOID IT!!! IMHO our government representatives and thier big business masters are our REAL ENEMIES!!! WE THE PEOPLE need to neutralise these people ,OUR evil bastards!!! Before THIER ACTIONS bring in a fate worse than Hiroshima on OUR HEADS!!!!

Do you think the rest of the world would care anymore about YOUR FATE than they would about the fate of the “good Germans” and “good Japanese”?

PEOPLE OF THE WORLD ,DO NOT LET THE DEATHS AND SUFFERING OF THE PEOPLE OF HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI BE FOR NOTHING!!!!

WE MUST LEARN BY THIER LESSON OR FACE THIER FATE!!

QUESTION YOUR REGIMES , WHAT IS BEING DONE IN YOUR NAME WITH YOUR TAX MONEY!!!! IF THEY ARE DOING EVIL THEN IT IS UP TO US, NOT OTHERS,  TO STOP THEM AND BRING THEM DOWN!!!!!

YOUR CHOICE!!!!

Preparing for World War III, Targeting Iran
Part I: Global Warfare

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20403

Global Military Agenda: U.S. Expands Asian NATO To Contain And Confront China

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20517

Why the War ended in mushroom clouds

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20478

http://www.newasiabooks.org/publication/japanese-apologies-world-war-ii-rhetorical-study

HUMANITY UNITED IN DIVERSITY!!!

THERE IS NO JUSTICE ,THERE IS JUST US!

VIOLENCE BREEDS VIOLENCE

EDUCATION BREEDS UNDERSTANDING

PEACE TO EVERYONE

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4 Responses to Hiroshima 65 years on…NO apologies , but have we learnt our lesson?

  1. janice says:

    why would the US apologize when Japan(government) has been denying their war crimes lately? they are denying nanking, manila, burma, bataan! and they HONOR their war criminals and the west has been complicit.

    unless the japanese.face their past and apologize to other.asian nations and to okinawans, the us has.nothing to apologoze for. that is like apologizing.to germany while they.deny the holocaust

    • cuthulan says:

      IF you read my post ,you will see this is exactly what I was saying!
      The previous generation of Japanese refused to apologise for THIER atrocities! SO they are also due NONE!
      The sins of the father are NOT the sins of the sons,so the modern Japanese have nothing to apologise for!
      BUT!!!!!
      Have WE learnt the lessons?
      How did it get to dropping nuclear weapons on mainly civilian targets to stop a global war? How do we ensure this NEVER happens again?!

  2. janice says:

    and by the way. there were almost no.civilians in japan…everyone over 15, male or.frmale was a CONSCRIPT.

    • cuthulan says:

      So we bombed 225,000 children?
      A conscript is FORCED into military service. America is thinking about conscription,does this mean we can bomb America and claim low civilian casualties?
      Mass murder is mass murder! I do not care what clothes or skin colour or passport or ideology the pile of bodies are!
      UNLESS…these are the very people that where coming over the horizon into YOUR home and country murdering raping and stealing ,there is NO excuse!
      BUT IF theses ARE the people invading and murdering and raping and stealing in your homeland,they will find out
      PAYBACK IS A BITCH
      AND THE WORD OVER RE-ACTION IS NOT IN ITS DICTIONARY!!!
      …..IMHO modern America and the UK have MORE to apologise for today than the 1940,s Japanese and have one hell of a payback waiting for it in the near future IF WE THE PEOPLE do NOT deal with our OWN elite monsters in thier centralised authorities!
      Finger pointing at old and dead Japanese is useless and distracting from the monsters active TODAY!!!
      Have we learnt our lesson or will we repeat the same mistakes and need another Hiroshima to bring us to our senses…temporarily

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