Why is US backing force in Libya but not Bahrain, Yemen?
By Andrew North
Are events unfolding in Libya, Tunisia and Egypt more about petro-terrorism or about freedom and democracy? How much oil is there in North Africa? Who is in control of that oil? What is the relationship between the West and Muamar Gaddafi? Is he really the terrorist we’ve all been led to believe he is? Who is the Libyan “opposition” and who are the “rebels” we read about?
BBC News, Washington
What’s the difference between Libya and Yemen or Bahrain?
All three states have been using violence to crush pro-democracy protests.
But only against Libya are the US and its Western allies planning a military response.
Yemen and Bahrain’s crackdowns have so far been met only with words, not action.
On one level the answer is obvious.
Bahrain and Yemen are US allies – especially Bahrain with its large US naval base. Libya is not.
The US response to Bahrain is further complicated by neighbouring Saudi Arabia, Washington’s number one Arab ally.
How The So-Called Guardians Of Free Speech Are Silencing The Messenger
By John Pilger
As the United States and Britain look for an excuse to invade another oil-rich Arab country, the hypocrisy is familiar. Colonel Gaddafi is “delusional” and “blood-drenched” while the authors of an invasion that killed a million Iraqis, who have kidnapped and tortured in our name, are entirely sane, never blood-drenched and once again the arbiters of “stability”.
SAUDI ARABIA IS A UNDEMOCRATIC DICTATORSHIP THAT SENDS TROOPS TO CRUSH DEMOCRACY PROTESTORS AND OPPRESSES IT OWN PEOPLE MUCH WORSE THAN GADDAFFI! COMPARED TO SAUDI ARABIA ,GADDAFFI IS A PEACELOVING DEFENDER OF DEMOCRACY!!
LYBIA IS A DIRECT DEMOCRACY!! THIS MEANS IT IS A MORE DEMOCRACTIC COUNTRY THAN THE USA , THE UK OR THE EU AND OASIS OF FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY COMPARED WITH THE THEOCRACY OF SAUDI ARABIAN DICTATORSHIP!!
March 02, 2011 “Pravda” — How can you call someone a dictator leader who overthrew a corrupt monarchy, modernized the country, won the highest HDI in Africa, and applied a direct democracy system of government?
Libya is the country with the highest HDI in Africa. Therefore, the best distribution of income, and health and public education are free. And almost 10% of Libyan students receive scholarships to study in foreign countries.
Direct democracy, classically termed pure democracy, is a form of democracy and a theory of civics in which sovereignty is lodged in the assembly of all citizens who choose to participate. Depending on the particular system, this assembly might pass executive motions, make laws, elect or dismiss officials, and conduct trials. Direct democracy stands in contrast to representative democracy(US,UK,EU), where sovereignty is exercised by a subset of the people, usually on the basis of election.
IN THE WEST OUR “SUBSET OF THE PROPLE” ARE ALL “VETTED” AND ALL HAVE THE SAME BACKERS ,SO THEY ARE JUST AN ELECTED DICTATORSHIP REPRESENTING THIER LOBBYISTS. WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OR CONTROL OVER OUR POLITICAL DICTATORS ….LYBIANS DID!!
I AM SURE IF THE “LIBERATION” OF LYBIAS OIL IS SUCCESSFUL , LYBIAN WILL HAVE A “REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY” IMPOSED ON THEM ,WITH SOME WESTERN PUPPET DICTATOR AT ITS HEAD ,BACKED UP BY WESTERN MILITARY MUSCLE AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA PROPAGANDA!! ……AND THIER STANDARDS OF LIVING WILL DECLINE WITH THIER FREEDOMS!!
MEANWHILE REAL SECULAR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY PROTESTORS ARE CRUSHED AND MURDERED BY WESTERN SUPPORTTED THUGS WHO SHOOT AND GAS THIER PEOPLE!!!
“Bahrain government about to collapse” – US, UK supplied the weapons used on the people
Bahrain bleeds from US bullets
Bahrain police killing people in drive by shootings
Crowd Control — Likely American Approved…
Just yesterday, the Commander of the US Fifth Fleet met the head of Bahrain’s Defense Forces (but there’s no mention of the meeting in the Fifth Fleet’s Web pages). Then, this…
Bahrain’s army deliberately kills peaceful protesters with live rounds ( automatic weapon )
Bahrain protesters hit by tear gas
Riot police in Bahrain have used tear gas and rubber bullets in an attempt to prevent hundreds of anti-government protesters from blocking Bahrain’s financial district.
Footage from the scene showed one protester being shot with a teargas canister at close range.
Al Jazeera’s Charles Stratford reports
THERE IS ALSO EVIDENCE THAT THE POLICE USED NERVE GAS ON THE PROTESTORS!!
Bahrain is a key element of the administration’s strategy against Iran: it is the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet, and will be the linchpin of any future military action in the Gulf by US forces. Simply put, the Empire cannot afford to lose Bahrain
MEANWHILE ….THE SAUDIS HAVE NOT JUST SENT TROOPS INTO OCCUPY BAHRAIN . IT IS SUPPLYING THE “LYBIAN REBELS” WHO ARE VERY CONVIENIENTLY SITTING ON LYBIANS MAJOR OIL FIELDS……..COINCIDENCE I AM SURE!!
AND WHO ARE THESE “FREEDOM LOVING LYBIAN REBELS” WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT
Anti-American Extremists Among Libyan Rebels U.S. Has Vowed To Protect
In 2007, when American combat casualties were spiking in the bloodbath of the Iraq War, an 18-year-old laborer traveled from his home in eastern Libya through Egypt and Syria to join an al Qaeda terrorist cell in Iraq. He gave his name to al Qaeda operatives as Ashraf Ahmad Abu-Bakr al-Hasri. Occupation, he wrote: “Martyr.’’
Abu-Bakr was one of hundreds of foreign fighters who flocked into the killing zones of Iraq to wage war against the “infidels.” They came from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Oman, Algeria and other Islamic states. But on a per capita basis, no country sent more young fighters into Iraq to kill Americans than Libya — and almost all of them came from eastern Libya, the center of the anti-Gaddafi rebellion that the United States and others now have vowed to protect, according to internal al Qaeda documents uncovered by U.S. intelligence.
SO IN REALITY WE ARE DEFENDING ISLAMIC TERRORIST AUTHORITARIANISM, OVER SECULAR DIRECT TRUE DEMOCRACY!!!!
Sunni ‘red line’
The Saudis were not happy to see Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak go.
Losing the Sunni monarchy in its neighbour is a red line – that’s why it took the unprecedented step of sending 1,000 troops over the border into Bahrain,after which the crackdown began.
But what happened to the “universal values” US President Barack Obama cited when he eventually backed protesters in Egypt?
His decision to abandon an old US ally there – Mr Mubarak – gave some the impression he was preparing to apply those values universally and to break with the past US policy of cosying up to other Middle Eastern regimes.
Critics say it was a dangerous impression, raising protesters’ expectations as well as Gulf monarchs’ blood pressure.
OF COURSE THEY WILL BE SUPPLYING THE “LYBIAN REBELS” ,SITTING ON LYBIAN OIL FIELDS ,WITH NEW BRITISH WEAPONS!!
March 07, 2011 “The Independent” — Desperate to avoid US military involvement in Libya in the event of a prolonged struggle between the Gaddafi regime and its opponents, the Americans have asked Saudi Arabia if it can supply weapons to the rebels in Benghazi. The Saudi Kingdom, already facing a “day of rage” from its 10 per cent Shia Muslim community on Friday, with a ban on all demonstrations.
BRITONS CAN BE PROUD THAT BRITISH INDUSTRY SUPPORTTED BY THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT ,IS PROVIDING THE VERY WEAPONS TO MAINTAIN DICTATORS AND CRUSH FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY WHERE EVER THEY APPEAR!!
Questions over PM’s arms sale tour
The SNP has questioned the Prime Minister’s judgement in embarking on a tour of the gulf states promoting arms sales in the wake of violence and unrest in the Middle East and North Africa and amid questions over whether the UK has sold the weapons and riot control equipment being used against protesters by various regimes.
David Cameron hits out at critics of Britain’s arms trade
In a staunch defence of Britain’s arms exports, as he tours the region with a group of senior defence manufacturers, Cameron said it was wrong to leave small Gulf countries to fend for themselves.
The prime minister indicated irritation with his critics when was asked during a press conference with his Kuwaiti counterpart how he could promote democracy and reform in the Middle East while travelling with businessmen selling arms to the region.
OF COURSE WE DO NOT WANT TO BE SEEN PROVIDING BRITISH WEAPONS TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS!!
BAE succeeded in getting a Serious Fraud Office investigation into its Saudi activities stopped. The SFO was thus prevented from getting key bank records from Switzerland that could have led to a bribery prosecution.
Using a sheaf of previously secret documents, the court is now hearing how BAE obtained the help of powerful friends to stop the fraud investigators. They included the then prime minister, Tony Blair, and one of Saudi Arabia’s most influential princes, Bandar bin Sultan.
THE WESTS ONLY MOTIVATION IS OIL ,ISRAEL AND THE MAINTAINENCE OF GLOBAL POWER ….AT ANY COST! THE BBC/MSM WILL BE USED TO SPREAD THE PROPAGANDA LIES OF HUMANITARIAN AID….WHILE THE WEST DROPS BOMBS ON CIVILIANS!
FOR THE UK ,THE EU PRESIDENT NOW DECIDES IF OUR EU/NATO ARMED FORCES GO TO WAR
Nigel Farage: EU has no legitimacy or consent to take military action
Mr van Rompuy, I hope you resist the calls for military action this afternoon, indeed the Liberal leader, Mr Verhofstadt, made a very pro-war speech.
I hope you will resist that on the grounds that there is no legitimacy or consent for the European Union to take military action, and that experience shows that if you go into military action, that may be easy, but getting out of it can be rather more difficult, and getting involved in Libya could indeed be a Vietnam-type experience, so please, please resist it.
THE ONCE IRRELEVANT UN NOW HAS THE POWER TO DECLARE WAR FOR THE USA AND NATO!! NO NEED TO ASK CONGRESS OR CHECK WITH “THE PEOPLE”
Once again, America has preemptively attacked a sovereign nation that posed no threat to her without a declaration of war from the people’s representatives. Apparently the U.S. president now gets permission from the U.N. to spend U.S. taxpayer dollars on unprovoked wars and outright murder. Isn’t it still called murder when killing is not done in self-defense?
SO WHY ARE WE ABOUT TO INVADE/LIBERATE/AID LYBIA?…FOR HUMANITARIAN REASONS?…NO I DO NOT THINK SO!!!
NATO REGULARLLY KILLS MORE CIVILIANS THAN GHADDAFI!!
By November NATO attack helicopters had, in addition to conducting strikes in the tribal belt, “violated Pakistani airspace, defying the integrity and sovereignty of Pakistan, over half a dozen times in…northwest Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and southwest Balochistan provinces….”
Not only has the U.S. killed over 2,000 people with drone missile strikes in North and South Waziristan, but over the last five months NATO has slain several Pakistani military personnel, extending the war into a nation with a population of 170 million and nuclear weapons.
While most of the world’s attention is concentrated on events in North Africa, the West is steadily and inexorably intensifying the longest, largest and most lethal war on the planet.
Xinhua News Agency, November 28, 2010
THEY ALSO CLAIMED HUMANITARIAN CAUSES FOR INVADING YUGOSLAVIA!! THEY WHERE LIARS THEN ,THEY STILL ARE TODAY!! NATO JUST “BALKANISED” SOCIALIST YUGOSLAVIA , THEY THEN DID THE SAME TO PAN-ARAB SOCIALIST IRAQ, IT SEEMS THEY WANT TO DO THE SAME TO DIRECT DEMOCRAY LYBIA!!
IN YUGOSLAVIA NATO SUPPORTTED ,ENABLED AND PROTECTED THE GENOCIDE AND ORGANLEGGERS AND ASSET STRIPPED THE COUNTRY FOR WESTERN INTERESTS. YUGOSLAVIA WAS FOUND INNOCENT , MILOSOVIC WAS FOUND DEAD!
In February 2007, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) cleared Serbia of genocide.
It was considered likely that, if allowed to present his case, Miloševic would attempt to establish that NATO’s attack on Yugoslavia was aggressive, thus being a war crime under international law and that, while supporting the KLA, were aware that they had practiced and intended to continue practicing genocide.
Miloševic was found dead in his cell on March 11, 2006, in the UN war crimes tribunal’s detention center, located in the Scheveningen section of The Hague.
Several medical experts, such as Leo Bokeria (the director of the Russian heart surgery centre, where Miloševic had requested to be treated) and The Times’ medical columnist Thomas Stuttaford, asserted that Miloševic’s heart attack could and should have been prevented easily by means of standard medical procedures.
Thanks to Carla Del Ponte Chief UN prosecutor ,we KNOW the KLA was involved in genocide and organ legging.Therefore NATO leaders including Tony Blair and Bill Clinton could be charged for WAR CRIMES and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY (AGAIN!!!!)
George Robertson, British Defense Minister, admitted during the hearing before the Parliament: “Before Račak this year (24 March 1999), the KLA was responsible for more deaths in Kosovo than the authorities of Yugoslavia”. The number of killings since 1998 was estimated at 2000, and 500 of these killings were attributed to Serbian forces.
YES YUGOSLAVIAN WAR WAS A WAR CRIME AND A COMPLETE MEDIA LIE!!
IN IRAQ WE BANKRUPTED OUR NATION AND BLED OUR YOUTHS BLOOD INTO THE SAND AND SLAUGHTERED MILLIONS IN THE PROCESS TO BRING WESTERN VALUES TO “ARAB SOCIALIST”IRAQ. UNFORTUNATELEY THE IRAQIS DID NOT ASK US TO DO THIS ,NOR WANT US TO DO THIS. WE HAVE JUST RUINED THIER COUNTRY ,AND SPARKED A CIVIL WAR AND DESTROYED THIER STANDARDS OF LIVING!!!
SUPRISINGLY THEY DO NOT THANK US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Video of ‘Day of Rage’ deadly riots as Iraq catches ‘Arab flu’
23 killed in Iraq’s ‘Day of Rage’ protests
By Stephanie McCrummen
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, February 25, 2011; 8:05 PM
BAGHDAD – Tens of thousands of Iraqis surged into the streets Friday in at least a dozen demonstrations across the country, storming provincial buildings, forcing local officials to resign, freeing prisoners and otherwise demanding more from a government they only recently had a chance to elect.
At least 23 protesters were killed as Iraqis braved security forces to vent shared frustrations at the nearest government official. Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds and Christians, they shouted for simple dignities made more urgent by war – adequate electricity, clean water, a decent hospital, a fair shot at a job.
SO IT WAS WELL WORTH THE SACRIFICE AND WE SHOULD DEFINATELY BE DOING THIS IN LYBIA….I AM SURE THEY TOO WILL THANK US LATER!
BUT WE ARE NOT INVADING/LIBERATING/AIDING, LYBIA FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE WESTERN PEOPLE, OR THE LYBIAN PEOPLE. WE ARE TAKING THIS ACTION TO DEFEND OUR GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVES , CORPORATE AND LOBBY GROUP INTERESTS!!!!
‘Interests come first’
“The US always preaches values that it cannot live up to,” says Marina Ottaway, director of the Middle East programme at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.
“In the end, its interests come first.”
As the uprisings have spread out of North Africa to Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, those interests have come to the fore again, with Washington taking a more cautious, country-by-country approach.
For the US, stability in those oil-rich states now appears to trump the hopes of their protest movements.
Yemen is crucial to Washington for its battle with al-Qaeda – which makes the Obama administration cautious in how hard it pushes Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh.
“The US is very afraid that if Saleh goes, Yemen will fall apart,” Ms Ottaway says.
Mr Obama condemned the latest violence in Yemen, in which at least 30 protesters were killed.
OH YES THOSE NASTY “YEMENI AL QUADA” ……THEY SEEM TO BE WESTERN CIA/MOSSAD ASSETS …AGAIN!! COULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF YEMEN FALLS,THE “FAKE AL QUADA” SECRET IS OUT AND TWAT (The War against Terror) BLOWS UP IN OUR POLITIONS FACES
Al Qaeda in Yemen is “Western-made”
Declaration of Yemeni Prime Minister
Yemeni Prime Minister Ali Muhammed al-Mujawar said Saturday that al-Qaida was originally a Western-made group and was never created by his country, Xinhua reported according to the state-run Saba news agency.
From BBC News:
Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence.
According to ABC news, the Al Qaeda leaders running the insurgency in Yemen were released from Guantanamo, although two of the highest ranking known terrorists there, without trial.
Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody. Both of the former Guantanamo detainees are described as military commanders and appear on a January, 2009 video along with the man described as the top leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, Abu Basir Naser al-Wahishi, formerly Osama bin Laden’s personal secretary.
With all the hoopla about trials in New York, not a word is said when top level terrorists are released to Saudi friends of the Bush family who let them go.We are now fighting these two Bush friends in Yemen. They are running a major insurgency there. We have been using Cruise missiles and our jets to attack their bases in the last weeks
US Supports Yemen Dictator
But he would only call for “those responsible… to be held accountable”, without directly laying it at Mr Saleh’s door.
Washington has had a low-key response as well to violence used by Iraqi security forces against protesters there.
Even with Libya, the new caution is on display. The administration was reluctant for some time to back a no-fly zone, fearing it could lead to a third US war on a Muslim country, after Afghanistan and Iraq.
It only did so only after it got support from Arab states and European allies.
And it is still not clear how much the US will contribute militarily to the UN-backed no-fly zone or what will happen if Col Gaddafi succeeds in hanging onto power.
With recent history in mind and the tide of protest still sweeping through the region, caution arguably looks a sensible policy from a US point of view.
But it also risks giving conservative Arab leaders the breathing space they need to stall the push for reform and hang on.
Having watched Tunisia and Egypt go, other Arab leaders are following Libya’s lead in drawing a line in the sand and opting for force rather than dialogue.
It’s not clear if Mr Obama can do anything about it.
SO IT SEEMS PM CAMERON AND FORIGN MINISTER HAGUE ARE JUST ANOTHER BUNCH OF INCOMPITENT , CORRUPTED , ZIONIST , LIARS ,WAITING TO BE ISSUED THIER WAR CRIMES WARRENTS!
JUST ANOTHER CASE OF “REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY” AKA “ELECTED DICTATORSHIP” , IN ACTION.
REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACIES LIE TO THIER PEOPLE , START WARS AND CREATE DEBTS. WHILE THE PEOPLE ARE LIED TOO, FIGHT THE WARS AND PAY THE DEBTS AND THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THIER “PUBLIC SERVANTS”. NATO AND THE US HAVE A LONG LIST OF INVADING COUNTRIES FOR PROFIT!!
SUPRISINGLY THE “DIRECT DEMOCRACY” OF LYBIA DOES NOT !!!
Excerpt from “The Chance for Peace Address,” April 16, 1953:
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms is not spending money alone.
It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.
It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.
It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement.
We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat.
We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.
This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
To say “I accept” in an age like our own is to say that you accept concentration–camps, rubber truncheons, Hitler, Stalin, bombs, aeroplanes, tinned food, machine guns, putsches, purges, slogans, Bedaux belts, gas–masks, submarines, spies, provocateurs, press–censorship, secret prisons, aspirins, Hollywood films and political murder. — George Orwell (1903–1950), British author. “Inside the Whale,” Inside the Whale and Other Essays (1940).
IF WE TOLERATE THIS ,THEN OUR CHILDREN WILL BE NEXT!!!!
American politions make a lot of money from War! Thanks to Lobby Groups ,about $32,500 per sitting
and then there is the black market profits ,drugs and weapons etc, which can be used for black-ops or just extra spending cash….
Does anyone remember IRAN-CONTRA?Those conspiring traitors are still in power!!!
Its one of the reasons they LIE to us regularly
PROTEST AND SURVIVE
BUT WESTERN CAPITALISM IS JUST “STATE CAPITALISM”
State capitalism has various different meanings, but is usually described as a society wherein the productive forces are controlled and directed by the state in a capitalist manner, even if such a state calls itself socialist. Corporatized state agencies and states that own controlling shares of publicly-listed firms, and thus acting as a capitalist itself, are two examples of state capitalism
OF COURSE THIS IS JUST FASCISM!!
Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.
Benito Mussolini, fascist dictator of Italy (1922-1943)
AWARENESS IS GROWING GLOBALLY
THE PROBLEM ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE CORRUPT
THE POLICE STATE
STANDING ARMIES ,TAXPAYER FUNDED CORPORATE INVASION FORCES
POLITICAL PARTIES ARE NOW THE PROBLEM ,NOT THE SOLUTION!!
A BRIEF HISTORY OF GLOBAL DOMINATION
THE SOLUTION SUPPORT DIRECT DEMOCRACY AND LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM
“All government, of course, is against liberty. The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. Most people want security in this world, not liberty.”
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out… without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable. It doesn’t take a majority to make a rebellion; it takes only a few determined leaders and a sound cause.”
“Whether the mask is labeled Fascism, Democracy, or Dictatorship or the Proletariat, our great adversary remains the Apparatus-the bureaucracy, the police, the military…. No matter what the circumstances, the worst betrayal will always be to subordinate ourselves to this Apparatus, and to trample underfoot, in its service, all human values in ourselves and in others.”– The French worker philosopher Simone Weil,1945