Fukushima the government and business LIES continue!While the world gets poisoned!!

People we are being LIED too Big time!! By Big Government and Big Business and it is KILLING US AND OUR CHILDREN! I hate to say “I told you so” …actually no i don’t, but then admit it ,you all knew it as well

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/30-reasons-why-the-japanese-government-and-big-business-are-lying-to-us/

With Chernobyl’s 25th anniversary reminding the world of the terrifying consequences of nuclear safety negligence, many eyes have turned to the continuing crisis in Japan. RT talks to Arnold Gundersen, Energy Adviser at Fairewinds Associates, from Vermont in the US.

Arnold “Arnie” Gundersen is chief engineer of energy consulting company Fairewinds Associates and a former nuclear power industry executive, and who has questioned the safety of the Westinghouse AP1000, a proposed third-generation nuclear reactor.Gundersen has also expressed concerns about the operation of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant. He served as an expert witness in the investigation of the Three Mile Island accident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen

Government Adviser Quits Post to Protest Japan’s Policy on Radiation Exposure for Fukushima Schools
by Dennis Normile on 29 April 2011,
TOKYO—A prominent Japanese radiation safety specialist has resigned his governmental advisory post in protest over what he calls “inexcusable” standards for school children in Fukushima Prefecture. The Yomiuri Online news web site reported in Japanese this evening that Toshiso Kosako, a radiation safety expert at the University of Tokyo, feels the standards are too lenient and that his advice has been ignored.
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/29/japan-nuclear-official-resigns-decision-disobey-laws-subject-children-high-radiation-21245/

 THE HUMAN COST OF CHERNOBYL
Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus have been burdened with the continuing and substantial decontamination and health care costs of the Chernobyl accident.
Thirty one deaths are directly attributed to the accident, all among the reactor staff and emergency workers. Hallenbeck, William H (1994). Radiation Protection. CRC Press. p. 15. ISBN 0-873-719-964. “Reported thus far are 237 cases of acute radiation sickness and 31 deaths.”
A UNSCEAR report places the total confirmed deaths from radiation at 64 as of 2008. Estimates of the number of deaths potentially resulting from the accident vary enormously: the World Health Organization (WHO) suggest it could reach 4,000;”Chernobyl: the true scale of the accident”. Chernobyl’s Legacy: Health, Environmental and Socio-Economic Impacts. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2005/pr38/en/index.html. Retrieved 2011-04-15.
a Greenpeace report puts this figure at 200,000 or more;”The Chernobyl Catastrophe – Consequences on Human Health”. Greenpeace. 18 April 2006.
a Russian publication, Chernobyl, concludes that 985,000 excess deaths occurred between 1986 and 2004 as a result of radioactive contamination;Alexey V. Yablokov; Vassily B. Nesterenko; Alexey V. Nesterenko (2009). Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment (Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences) (paperback ed.). Wiley-Blackwell. ISBN 978-1573317573.

URGENT: Japan now admits Fukushima at 154 trillion Bq’s/Day and West coast Radiation forecast,Part1

“Radiation is cumulative & much more dangerous when it is ingested than when it is outside of you” .Japan admits daily radioactive release from Fukushima at 154 trillion Becquerels, many times higher than previously announcedNuclear commission blames calculation error”
http://enenews.com/daily-radioactive-release-from-fukushima-is-150-times-high

“FUKUSHIMA = 2,000 Atomic Bombs
Killer Contamination Spreads Worldwide”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/04/22/fukushima-2000-atomic-bombs/
“Radiation is cumulative is much more dangerous when it is ingested than when it is outside of you,radiation falling with rain can cover grass that is eaten by cows and other animals. It can also fall on food crops or contaminate reservoirs that are used for irrigation or drinking water.”
http://alamedasun.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8433&…
“Fukushima Radiation Fallout potential forecast map”
http://transport.nilu.no/browser/fpv_fuku?fpp=conccol_Xe-133_;region=DMANC1

FUKUSHIMA = 2,000 Atomic Bombs with 70 Billion Radioactive Lethal Doses so far!
Killer Contamination Spreads Worldwide Without Opposition

(San Francisco) — Radioactive contamination equivalent to the Fukushima, Japan disaster in terms of the hated “Mushroom Cloud” Atomic Bombs is two thousand (2,000) 500 Kiloton Atomic Bombs.* Each 500kt Atomic Bomb is 33 times bigger than the American Bomb that destroyed Hiroshima on August 6, 1945.
the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Weapons, the biggest ever, the “mushroom” portion is invisible and has engulfed the whole world with 70 Billion Radioactive Lethal Doses* — so far. There’s more on the way.
Truly, it is as if the entire world is At War! The dreaded all-out nuclear war that would happen if Russia or the United Stated accidentally “Pressed The Button” is going on right now; it is a done deal. Imagine that! The same thing as detonating 2,000 big Atomic Bombs and not even one “BOOM!” Not a shot fired, yet we could all die!

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/04/22/fukushima-2000-atomic-bombs/

Radioactive Iodine In Phoenix Arizona Milk 1600% above EPA as they prepare to raise limits?

BUT BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS  HAVE BEEN TELLING BIG LIES ABOUT NUCLEAR ENERGY FOR A LONG TIME!!

THE GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS ARE LIARS!! THEY TELL YOU LIES THAT WILL KILL YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN FOR THIER FINANCIAL BENEFIT!!
MEANWHILE STOP DRINKING MILK!!

Sunday, April 24, 2011
Radiation Expert: “Sr-90 and Uranium and Particulates Will Be Building Up in the USA and Europe … For Now I Think It Prudent To Stop Drinking Milk”
I wrote to radiation expert Dr. Chris Busby to ask him if he thought people living outside of Japan should take any actions to try to reduce their radiation exposure:

Epidemiologist Dr. Wing thinks people outside of Japan shouldn’t do anything to attempt to reduce radiation exposure: Leading Epidemiologist: Instead of Trying to Avoid Japanese Radiation, Put Your Energy Into Demanding a Saner Energy Policy

But the French anti-nuclear NGO CRIIAD says that pregnant women and infants should take steps to reduce exposure: French Nuclear Group Warns that Children and Pregnant Mothers Should Protect Themselves from Radiation
I’ve also researched the scientific literature, and found that antioxidants can help a little: Can Vitamins or Herbs Help Protect Us from Radiation?
What’s your advice for people outside of Japan?
Professor Busby replied:

I attach my “don’t panic” paper. However, since then I have re-thought this advice as the thing is still fissioning and releasing 10 to the fourteen becquerels a day. This will mean that Sr-90 [strontium 90] and Uranium and particulates will be building up in the USA and Europe. I will assess this later but for now I think it prudent to stop drinking milk. I also attach the particulates note.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/04/radiation-expert-sr-90-and-uranium-and.html

THE LIES OF SAFE RADIATION LEVELS AND BACKGROUND RADIATION!!

That being said the FDA Derived Intervention Level (DIL) for plutonium in FOOD is 54 Picocuries and is 27 Picocuriesfor infant food/water/milk. These DIL’s are also by no means a “safety levels” either but rather levels so high they will cause serious widespread health problems… for explanation see http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/11/japan-nuclear-radiation-hawaii-milk-2033-percent-federal-drinking-water-limits-16130/ The EPA’s Maximum Contamination Level (MCL) for plutonium which is 15 pci/liter in the drinking water.

As far as plutonium being natural since the big bang… that is very misleading if not untrue. This element primarily exists is from man made nuclear fission from nuclear bomb tests and what we see as part of “natural background radiatoin” isn’t “natural” at all nor are they the levels that have existed since the BIG BANG. Plutonium in the atmoshphere is primarily from atomic bomb detonations. From there the majority of the remainder is from nuke plants and nuke weapon manufacturing.
http://www.epa.gov/superfund/health/contaminants/radiation/pdfs/plutonium.pdf

I WONDER HOW CHEAP ALL THIS CHEAP ,CLEAN AND GREEN NUCLEAR ENERGY IS WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THE CANCER , LEUKEMIA ,DEFORMED CHILDREN , CONTAMINATED REAL ESTATE ,DESTRUCTION OF FARMING AND AGROCULTURAL BUSINESSES , FISHING INDUSTRIES ,GLOBALLY POLLUTED WATER AND AIR THAT HAS TO BE PAID FOR BY SOMEONE…..AND IT WAS THE JANANESE PEOPLE THAT BENEFITTED FROM THIS ENERGY SO CHEAP IT WAS NOT WORTH METERING!!………WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU NEVER HAD CHEAP ENERGY BILLS!?!?!? YOU MEAN THAT WAS A LIE AS WELL!!
And having been responsible for it for many, many years, I learned from experience, it wasn’t cheap, with the cost of storage of nuclear waste and the research; it isn’t safe, because Chernobyl and Three Mile Island and Windscale and so on; and it wasn’t peaceful. But all the time it was motivated by the desire to build nuclear weapons.
“Nor are Britain’s civil nuclear power stations peaceful as for many years, and still possibly today, the plutonium they produce was sent to fuel the American nuclear weapons programme, making them into – what were in effect – bomb factories.
At no stage, as a minister, could I rely on being told the truth either by the Industry itself, or by my own civil servants“
Tony Benn ex-UK Technology Minister
http://www.tonybenn.com/nucl.html

THIS IS PROVEN BY THE FACT BRITISH NUCLEAR FUELS WOULD OF GONE BANKRUPT LONG AGO IF LEFT TO THE FREE MARKET. AFTER THE END OF THE “COLD WAR” IT COULD NOT BEAT COAL OR OIL ENERGY PRODUCTION FOR BEING CHEAP ,CLEAN AND GREEN!! ……..QED THEY WHERE WEAPONS FACTORIES!!!

The United Kingdom’s response to critics of the Sellafield MOX Plant, aging nuclear reactors and plans for new reactors is becoming apparent. Following revelations that British Nuclear Fuels Ltd. (BNFL) is technically bankrupt, the government announced that a new Liabilities Management Authority is to take over its liabilities, including the Sellafield and the Magnox reactors. Critics who divulge details of nuclear security, nuclear transports or uranium enrichment will risk up to 7 years in jail under a new law. In short, it is full steam ahead for this Titanic of the industry, and the question is, which iceberg will it hit first…
Faced with revelations that one of its leading players is bankrupt, with installations described as the most dangerous in Western Europe which enable terrorists to hold the world to ransom, any normal industry would be on its knees. However, the UK’s nuclear industry is not a normal industry.
http://www.nirs.org/mononline/fullsteamahead.htm

ACTUALLY THE UK NUCLEAR INDUSTRY AND ALL ITS DANGERS AND LIES WHERE BUILT TO PROVIDE RAW MATERIALS FOR AMERICAN ANS ISRAELLI WMDS.
WE THE PEOPLE WHERE JUST LIED TOO!!! THERE NEVER WAS GOING TO BE CHEAP , CLEAN OR GREEN ENERGY …JUST NUCLEAR WMDS FOR AMERICA AND ISRAEL!!
We have an extended conversation with Tony Benn, one of Britain’s most distinguished politicians and the longest serving MP in the history of the Labour party. Benn discusses the new revelations the British government helped Israel build the atom bomb
MICHEAL MICHEALS ANOTHER ISRAELLI TRAITOR IN THE UK GOVERNMENT
According to de-classified government documents, a British government official named Michael Michaels oversaw the shipments behind the backs of his superiors. One of these superiors is our guest today. Tony Benn was Britain’s Minister of Technology at the time.
https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/the-lies-of-nuclear-power-the-links-between-wmds-and-renewable-energies/

…….THE LIES CONTINUE AND SO DOES THE DEADLY POLLUTION OF THE PLANET ,WHAT IS THE BET THAT THE TAXPAYER WILL BE HANDED THE BILL AND GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESS OFFICIALS WILL BE LEGALLY PROTECTED, ITS WHAT BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS DO!….BLAME THE VICTIM!!

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/30-reasons-why-the-japanese-government-and-big-business-are-lying-to-us/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/japans-future-and-the-western-uranium-wmd-death-industry/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/the-real-ecological-disasters-we-face-are-big-business-and-big-government/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/the-oil-crisis-what-oil-crisis/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/energy-crisis-solved-are-they-taking-the-piss-in-edinburgh/

PROTECT YOURSERLF FROM BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS LIES WITH PEOPLE POWER!!!

Professor Christopher Busby: Hydrogen Explosion Was Actually Nuclear Reaction, “People Who Ignore History Are Doomed To Repeat It”
By Alex Thomas
April 25th, 2011
Professor Christoper Busby, a leading critic of the Fukushima nuclear cover up, recently appeared on Russia Today with some startling information.
Many witnessed the supposed hydrogen explosion in disbelief, wondering if they had just witnessed a small scale nuclear explosion. Now it seems at least one of the explosions may well have been a nuclear reaction.
Professor Busby stated that he believes that there was some sort of nuclear explosion in the tanks that contain the spent fuel rods at the number 3 Fukushima nuclear power plant.

Busby: ‘Can’t seal Fukushima like Chernobyl – it all goes into sea’

As world marks the Chernobyl anniversary, many say that the world has failed to learn the lessons on nuclear safety that the tragedy provided. RT talks to Professor Christopher Busby, Scientific secretary of the European Committee on radiation risks, for a little more insight on 21st century’s most serious nuclear crisis at Fukushima.

Amounts as far as 60km from the Fukushmia nuclear power plant have measured far above the levels measured in Chernobyl. Professor Busby stated that we are looking at at least a million cancers in Japan from this nuclear tragedy.
Commenting on the nuclear industry shills who have continually downplayed the dangers of the Fukushima disaster, Professor Busby echoed what many in the alternative media have reported from the beginning
“People who ignore history are doomed to repeat it and as far as the people who are talking this down are concerned they are generally people connected to the nuclear industry and theres an awful lot of money running on whether this is the case or not.”
Alexander Higgins, a blogger and frequent Intel Hub contributor has reported the fact that a lone Japanese congressman has also stated that the supposed hydrogen explosion was actually a nuclear reaction/explosion.

“If what Takeshi Tokuda, Member of the Lower House (House of Representatives) in the Japanese Diet, says is true, the explosion that blew up the Reactor 1 building roof and side walls may not have been an hydrogen explosion as the government has insisted, but something decidedly more serious,” wrote Higgins, quoting a Japanese Blog.

Interestingly, the Japanese politician was speaking about the explosion at reactor 1 while Busby spoke of the one at reactor 3 but also hinted about other possible nuclear explosions.

“This is particularly bad news because we have already confirmed that plutonium and strontium from the nuclear plant have been raining on the US west coast since March 18th. An analysis by Lucas WhiteField Hixson of the high resolution photos of the power plant provide that the plutonium MOX fuel was ejected into the atmosphere during the explosion,”
 
It is clear and has been clear for many weeks that governments worldwide are covering up the extent of the damage at the Fukushima nuclear power plant.
http://theintelhub.com/2011/04/25/professor-christopher-busby-hydrogen-explosion-was-actually-nuclear-reaction-people-who-ignore-history-are-doomed-to-repeat-it/

Coverup of the Devastating Impacts of Nuclear Radiation: Establishing an International Citizens Radiation Monitoring Network

If we could rely on the Japanese and American governments to inform us of any danger, we wouldn’t have to be so vigilant.
But given the American government’s cover up of the severity of the BP oil disaster, the health risk to New Yorkers after 9/11, and numerous other health issues, we will have to educate ourselves.
For example, the U.S. Surgeon General has recommended that West Coast residents stock up with potassium iodide, while other government officials say that is unnecessary, because radiation levels will not be high enough. But no government has disclosed radiation readings in the West Coast, so we can’t verify for ourselves whether or not there is currently any danger. See this and this.
As ABC News notes, experts says that Japan has a long history of nuclear cover-ups.
The New York Times points out:
The different radioactive materials being reported at the nuclear accidents in Japan range from relatively benign to extremely worrisome.
The central problem in assessing the degree of danger is that the amounts of various radioactive releases into the environment are now unknown, as are the winds and other atmospheric factors that determine how radioactivity will disperse around the stricken plants.
BBC reports (scroll down on left side):
Japanese engineer Masashi Goto, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima’s reactor core, says the design was not enough to withstand earthquakes or tsunami …
Indeed, Goto said:
“It is difficult to say, but that would be a core meltdown. If the rods fall and mix with water, the result would be an explosion of solid material like a volcano spreading radioactive material. Steam or a hydrogen explosion caused by the mix would spread radioactive waste more than 50km. Also, this would be multiplied. There are many reactors in the area so there would be many Chernobyls.
And Goto accused the Japanese government of deliberately withholding vital information that would allow outside experts help solve the problems:
For example, there has not been enough information about the hydrogen being vented. We don’t know how much was vented and how radioactive it was.

The former editor of the Japan Times – Yoichi Shimatsu – states that after a high-level government meeting, “Japanese agencies are no longer releasing independent reports without prior approval from the top,” and that censorship of what is really occurring at the plant is being overseen under the Article 15 Emergency Law.France is also accusing Japan of downplaying the nuclear threat.

And Haarertz notes:

Since the Japanese government has not provided accurate information regarding the possible threat posed by the explosion at the Fukushima nuclear power plant, experts in Israel and abroad are divided on the scope of the disaster and the ramifications for the environment.

There are some very incomplete real-time monitoring networks such as this and this. But the number of monitors is very small and incomplete, and it is hard to know who runs the networks.

So we must harness the power of the Internet in order to educate ourselves.

How?

Simple … Everyone who has a geiger counter can post a live stream to the web like this guy:

Online Geiger Counter Nuclear Radiation Detector Map

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

Online Radiation and Geiger Counter Maps

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/Europe.htm

 Make sure you give your location (city, state and country) so people know where you are, the make and model of your geiger counter, and the units of radiation being counted (i.e. counts per minute, milli-roentgens per hour or micro-sieverts per hour).
When enough people do this, we will have a citizens radiation monitoring network, and we won’t have to rely on the lack of information coming from governments.

REALITY CHECK

THIS IS THE ONLY HABITABLE PLANET WE KNOW OF OR CAN CURRENTLY REACH! THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 20 DIFFERENT VARIENTIES OF ADVANCE PRIMATES (INTELIGENT MAMALS) ON PLANET EARTH!!

TODAY ONLY WE SURVIVE , THE REST HAVE BECOME EXTINCT!!!

DON’T THINK WE HAVE ANY GUARANTEES!! OR ARE ANYTHING SPECIAL!

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/planet-medea-and-fake-environmentalism/

http://www.newscientist.com/movie/mg20227131400-gaias-evil-twin-is-life-its-own-worst-enemy

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/darwin-award-for-soldiers-and-israel-will-natural-selection-end-war-and-israel/

WE NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO SECULAR AND RELIGIOUS FASCISTS!!

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/pastors-of-muppets-and-masters-of-puppets-and-other-paedophiles/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/subliminals-from-criminals-and-the-peephole-for-the-people-msm-vs-wikileaks-the-fight-is-on/

OR ….ARE WE TOO STUPID TO SURVIVE?…MORE LIES THAT RUIN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/health-in-the-21st-cenutry-is-killing-us/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/vegetarianism-is-not-healthysave-the-planet-eat-panda-burgers/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/the-oil-crisis-what-oil-crisis/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/01/30/war-on-drugs-officially-lost-another-fake-us-war-another-total-us-defeat/

https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/malice-in-blunderland-obama-bp-and-goldman-suckspirates-of-the-caribean-iv-the-black-spot/

PEOPLE WE HAVE TO STOP ACCEPTING THIS BULLSHIT ,BEFORE IT KILLS US ALL!!!

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10 Responses to Fukushima the government and business LIES continue!While the world gets poisoned!!

  1. Roger says:

    Fairly obvious that fact need not apply to be posted here – the comparison to Fukushima to atomic bombs is totally wrong – you should go study Chernobyl (no helicopter pilots died for example) and Fukushima – no one has had radiation poisoning let alone died due to radiation effects – no one is likely to because the worst happened when the three hydrogen gas explosions occured. Each of those released fission products, dominately Iodine-131 which will all be gone in less than six months because of its 8 day half-life – there also is Cesium-137 and that will be around for quite some time hundred years or more, but the level may not really be that high and the evacuation area will be shrunk, not expanded in the future. Brave New Climate has accurate information. Yours does not.

    • cuthulan says:

      Hi Roger
      the fact that radiation levels are still too high for workers to be in the plant show that it is still very active!….and 9 months until it is plugged sounds like its a bit worse than Chernobyl!
      Roger your last claim was
      “Fukushima does not have the capability of becoming even one, let alone several Chernobyls.”
      BUT…
      Japan on Tuesday raised the severity of its nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant to a level 7 from 5, putting it on par with the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986.
      http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/12/japan-nuclear-radiation-idUSTKE00635920110412

      There are 6 reactors including a MOX reactor in Fukushima, it is a very serious situation!
      We cannot rely on government or business information
      “Japanese agencies are no longer releasing independent reports without prior approval from the top,” and that censorship of what is really occurring at the plant is being overseen under the Article 15 Emergency Law
      SIMPLE FACT
      IF the nuclear industry actually had to PAY for the DAMAGE they have done to the world and the economy ,ruining argrocultural ,fishing and other businesses ,they would of GONE BUST LONG ,LONG AGO!
      THE WHOLE NUCLEAR ENERGY INDUSTRY IS A LIE!!
      ITS A WMD FACTORY ,NOT AN ENERGY INDUSTRY!!
      I DO NOT EXPECT THEM TO CHANGE THIER SPOTS NOW!!
      They are fighting for thier very existance ,they will say and do anything that is nessecary to survive!
      Roger I really do hope this is NOT as bad as it seems,BUT it is better to be prepared and do NOT rely on government or business information!!
      IMHO Your comments about how this could not be as bad as Chernobyl have made a laughing stock of your opinions! THEY HAVE BEEN PROVEN ,WITH TIME, TO BE INNACURATE!
      I also notice you never mention THORIUM REACTORS!!
      If we wanted cheap, clean and green energy we would of built thorium reactors which cannot go into meltdown ,does not need expensive refinment and do not produce the nasty waste uranium does!
      BUT we wanted the WMDS! So we got FUKUSHIMA’D

  2. Roger says:

    Why not put this out in a manageable fashion instead of trying to snow the reader.

    You open with the following and then draw unwarranted conclusion.

    “the fact that radiation levels are still too high for workers to be in the plant show that it is still very active!….and 9 months until it is plugged sounds like its a bit worse than Chernobyl!”

    Define the term “active” – it is undefined – you appear to be implying that fission is still occuring. If anything, it is pretty clear that fission has stopped, that fission stopped on March 11th. Why then is there radioactive water in the basement? Not enough time has occured for the radioactive half lives of the fission products in the water to have reduced the level of these radionuclides to be reduced down enough to be safe for workers to be there for any extended time. The levels are low enough for workers to do work if they do it very short time intervals. At Chernobyl, the fires in the graphite burned for nearly ten days – and fission continued for perhaps five (I am not sure the exact number, but it clearly did not stop on day one).

    Nine months before what is plugged? You clearly do not know anything about the subject other than that you do not trust the utility or any government (or international organization like the IAEA) – so who do you trust? My guess is no one. So when are you personally going to Fukushima to take your own readings?

    For those who seek to learn about what has happened at and is happening at Fukushima and even a comparison of at least one aspect (the number of radiation sickness deaths – Fukushima – zero and none expected – Chernobyl a couple of dozen) Dr Gale provides exact numbers in his report at
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2219004/pdf/canfamphys00177-0217.pdf )

    that is discussed within this article that has been reposted to Brave New Climate http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/04/18/helicopters-tall-stories-journalism/#more-4452

    Japan did not build reactors to produce plutonium – you are going off on another one of your tangents.

    • cuthulan says:

      Roger stop being obtuse!
      What do i mean by active….
      RADIATION leaks from the Fukushima nuclear plant could be reduced within three months but it will take six to nine months to cool reactors and control the radiation
      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/fukushima-reactors-cool-in-9-months/story-fn84naht-1226040518426
      Chernobyl deaths …well that is a disputed number
      A new Greenpeace report has revealed that the full consequences of the Chernobyl disaster could top a quarter of a million cancer cases and nearly 100,000 fatal cancers.
      Our report involved 52 respected scientists and includesinformation never before published in English. It challenges the UN International Atomic Energy Agency Chernobyl Forum report, which predicted 4,000 additional deaths attributable to the accident as a gross simplification of the real breadth of human suffering.
      The new data, based on Belarus national cancer statistics, predicts approximately 270,000 cancers and 93,000 fatal cancer cases caused by Chernobyl. The report also concludes that on the basis of demographic data, during the last 15 years, 60,000 people have additionally died in Russia because of the Chernobyl accident, and estimates of the total death toll for the Ukraine and Belarus could reach another 140,000
      http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/features/chernobyl-deaths-180406/

      roger says
      “Japan did not build reactors to produce plutonium – you are going off on another one of your tangents”
      NO ROGER
      ITS ALL PART OF URANIUM VS THORIUM REACTORS , SOMETHING YOU REFUSED TO MENTION!!
      WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION WITH THORIUM REACTORS!!

  3. cuthulan says:

    @Roger
    YOU ARE GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM BARRY BROOK ,A CLIMATE CHANGE PRO-NUCLEAR VESTED INTEREST MUPPET!!
    BRAVE NEW CLIMATE …LOL!!!!!!!
    He is known for his work in ecological systems models, conservation biology and climate change impacts. He is a strong advocate for nuclear power as a sustainable energy source, especially the Integral Fast Reactor. His most recent book is Why vs Why: Nuclear Power.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Brook_(scientist)
    IMHO NOT THE BEST SOURSE FOR THIS SORT OF INFO!
    OR are you into climate change(i call it weather)global warming(ex-global cooling)as well?

  4. Roger says:

    You still do not understand that it takes months for normal decay heat to subside to below the boiling point- you keep muddling the issue with thorium reactors. The situation at Fukushima has been wrongly described by you in the first long-winded and fairly hard to decode post. You continue to insist on blathering on instead of being short and to the point. The point is that Fukushima is not and will never be worse than Chernobyl. Fukushima’s reactors were all shut down when the tsunami hit. Even when a reactor is shut down, it has substantial decay heat resulting from the normal decay of fission products in the fuel rod. That heat is about 10% of the full power output. Chernobyl’s reactor was in well above full power operation in a test when it blew its top and radioactive materials high into the air. Chernobyl had no containment structure. Chernobyl had a graphite moderator and that graphite surround the out of control fuel rods caught fire and burned for nearly ten days! Fukushima has had some brief fires, not the best, but again, no Chernobyl. Read the referenced documents and you will find out more than you ever knew since you are stuck on claiming that Fukushima and the other reactors in Japan are in the WMD production business. The Hanford Reactors were in the plutonium production business. Chernobyl may have been in the plutonium production business. I believe I have read that the Chernobyl fuel rods were easily removeable and that is necessary for plutonium production. In a normal boiling water reactor of the type used at Fukushima, much of the plutonium that is produced is reactor grade plutonium that is not useable for a bomb.

    see from Wikipedia article on plutonium
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium#Toxicity

    “The presence of plutonium-240 limits a sample’s usability for weapons or reactor fuel, and determines its grade. Plutonium isotopes are expensive and inconvenient to separate, so particular isotopes are usually manufactured in specialized react”

    “On April 5, 1944, Emilio Segrè at Los Alamos received the first sample of reactor-produced plutonium from Oak Ridge.[57] Within ten days, he discovered that reactor-bred plutonium had a higher concentration of the isotope plutonium-240 than cyclotron-produced plutonium. Plutonium-240 has a high spontaneous fission rate, raising the overall background neutron level of the plutonium sample. The original gun-type plutonium weapon, code-named “Thin Man”, had to be abandoned as a result—the increased number of spontaneous neutrons meant that nuclear pre-detonation (a fizzle) would be likely.”

    • cuthulan says:

      @Roger
      If anyone is muddying the waters its YOU
      I have been warning about URANIUM REACTORS and there REAL USAGE since before Fukushima!
      FUKUSHIMA IS JUST PROVING MY POINT!!
      https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/the-lies-of-nuclear-power-the-links-between-wmds-and-renewable-energies/
      you are talking bollocks again! So plutonium is mostly beneign?
      FYI
      Reactor-Grade and Weapons-Grade Plutonium in Nuclear Explosives
      ~ excerpted from the US Department of Energy Publication ~
      Nonproliferation and Arms Control Assessment of Weapons-Usable Fissile Material Storage and Excess Plutonium Disposition Alternatives
      (pages 37-39)
      January 1997
      Virtually any combination of plutonium isotopes — the different forms of an element having different numbers of neutrons in their nuclei — can be used to make a nuclear weapon. Not all combinations, however, are equally convenient or efficient.
      The most common isotope, plutonium-239, is produced when the most common isotope of uranium, uranium-238, absorbs a neutron and then quickly decays to plutonium. It is this plutonium isotope that is most useful in making nuclear weapons, and it is produced in varying quantities in virtually all operating nuclear reactors.
      http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html
      You just take out some uranium early if you want the purest quality weapons grade plutonium!
      Because of the preference for relatively pure plutonium-239 for weapons purposes, when a reactor is used specifically for creating weapons plutonium, the fuel rods are removed and the plutonium is separated from them after relatively brief irradiation (at low “burnup”). The resulting “weapons-grade” plutonium is typically about 93 percent plutonium-239.
      http://www.ccnr.org/plute.html
      But this makes the reactor a really inefficient energy generator!!
      SIMPLE FACT URANIUM REACTORS ARE NOT CLEAN ,GREEN OR SAFE.
      THEY DO NOT PRODUCE CHEAP ENERGY
      THEY DO PRODUCE RAW PLUTONUIM FOR WMDS!!
      WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING URANIUM REACTORS?
      This is TONY BENN speaking ,he set up the British nuclear industry ,he WAS pro-nuclear ,until he worked in the industry!
      “Nor are Britain’s civil nuclear power stations peaceful as for many years, and still possibly today, the plutonium they produce was sent to fuel the American nuclear weapons programme, making them into – what were in effect – bomb factories.
      At no stage, as a minister, could I rely on being told the truth either by the Industry itself, or by my own civil servants“
      Tony Benn ex-UK Technology Minister
      http://www.tonybenn.com/nucl.html
      DO YOU REALLY THINK IT IS DIFFERENT IN JAPAN?
      FYI PLUTONIUM
      A radioactive, silvery, metallic transuranic element, produced artificially by neutron bombardment of uranium, having 15 isotopes with masses ranging from 232 to 246 and halflives from 20 minutes to 76 million years. It is a radiological poison, specifically absorbed by bone marrow, and is used, especially the highly fissionable isotope Pu239, as a reactor fuel and in nuclear weapons.
      In referring to small amounts of radioactive materials,such as plutonium, the words “toxic” and “toxicity” are used to describe their relative abilities to damage biological material rather than to kill rapidly. The effects of low-level exposures to plutonium, as well as other radioactive material, may not be detected for many years, if at all.
      The risk of plutonium, particularly that which is maintained in temporary above ground storage facilities around the country, is that it and other transuranic isotopes have the potential to be inadvertently released to the biosphere. Without proper control and permanent disposal, plutonium can be of great risk if it were accidently released and dispersed with subsequent exposure to nearby populations.
      The American Heritage Dictionary, Second College Edition
      WITH ALL THIS NEW ARTIFICIALLY PRODUCED PLUTONIUM IN THE ATMOSPHERE IT MIGHT HELP TO EXPLAIN WHY CANCER NEVER EXISTED BEFORE THE INDUSRTIAL REVOLUTION ,BUT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST KILLERS TODAY….THIS WOULD MAKE QUITE A HIGH DEATH TOLL DUE TO URANIUM REACTORS ,AND NUCLEAR TESTING..
      Cancer a Modern Lifestyle disease
      https://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/cancer-one-of-the-modern-lifestyle-diseases/

  5. cuthulan says:

    @Roger
    “For those who seek to learn about what has happened at and is happening at Fukushima and even a comparison of at least one aspect (the number of radiation sickness deaths – Fukushima – zero and none expected – Chernobyl a couple of dozen)”
    THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT ,I HOPE YOU HAVE LEARNED THAT!
    FACT
    the UN International Atomic Energy Agency Chernobyl Forum report, which predicted 4,000 additional deaths attributable to the accident
    A BIT MORE THAN A COUPLE OF DOZEN.ITS ONLY
    “VESTED INTEREST ASSET” BARRY BROOK THAT CLAIMS SUCH NONSENSE!!
    THE REAL FIGURES ARE PROBABLY MUCH HIGHER!!
    In referring to small amounts of radioactive materials,such as plutonium, the words “toxic” and “toxicity” are used to describe their relative abilities to damage biological material rather than to kill rapidly. The effects of low-level exposures to plutonium, as well as other radioactive material, may not be detected for many years, if at all.
    SO WE WILL NOT SEE THE EFFECTS FOR A FEW YEARS YET!!DID YOU NOT KNOW THIS ,OR DO YOU BELIEVE PLUTONIUM IS BENIGN ,OR WHERE YOU TRYING TO BE DECIETFUL?
    We will just have to see the rise in cancer ,leukemia and child deformities to count the cost!!
    It is quite possible that the modern rise in child cancers and leukemias are due the uranium nuclear industry!…but I admit it is speculation ,but it is certainly becoming the most likely culprit!

  6. cuthulan says:

    A last comment…..
    Your figures of a “few dozen” deaths at Chernobyl only takes into account the deaths from sourse radiation exposure,at the momment believed to stand at 64(2008)…not those that died from radioactive contanination via enviromental pollution! Believed to stand at 985,000 at the last survey(2009)!
    I believe that Fukushima will be worse ,because Chernobyl did not get into the groundwater, unfortunately Fukushims has, it also is leaking like a sive into the sea!
    SO Expect more deaths due to radioactive contamination than Chernobyl!
    BUT only time will tell………..

    As for the uranium energy industry, it is an insanely stupid way to boil water!!
    It is not cheap , otherwise it would not have gone BUST in the free market,trying to supply cheap energy!
    It is not safe or green ,Fukushima, Chernobyl , 3 mile island etc etc etc….
    IF we intended to make nuclear reactors that where safe ,cheap and clean we would of built THORIUM REACTORS!!
    There is 5x the amount of Thorium compared to uranium!
    We can use 100% of thorium without expensive refinement processes, we can only use 1% of uranium after its been refined!
    Thorium does not leave the toxic waste of uranium , that has to be stored for 1000’s of years at least!!
    BUT it is that uranium waste that is needed to build WMDS!!
    QED uranium nuclear reactors are WMD factories , NOT CHEAP CLEAN OR GREEN ENERGY PRODUCERS!!!
    IF YOU SUPPORT THIS INDUSTRY AND THINK ITS NON-LETHAL ,LEAD US BY EXAMPLE ,PLEASE GO AND HELP THE CLEAN UP THEY COULD REALLY DO WITH YOUR HELP!!

  7. flyingcuttlefish says:

    Fukushima IS very much worse than Chernobyl right now ( x3 !!!) .

    This is a good post.
    EVERYONE with a blog should shout it from the housetops!

    Go to your grocery store now and buy pre-Fukushima flour, cerial, storable food etc.

    The US agriculteral region along with Canada (wheat) are getting bathed in cesium 131 & radiation NON-STOP.

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