Can I offer an olive branch and some clarifications as I think I have confused and insulted some spiritual people. When I just want to show the FACTS as I see them. I mean no offence to true spiritual people ancient or modern! Its an atheists wake up call to the spiritually lazy!
I am certain in my belief ,just as others are certain in thiers,I wish them all well.
Everyday the multiverse amazes me as more possibilities burst into life.I see every human being as a finite piece of infinite possibility.
Mankind has infinite possible futures of dreams or nightmares ,our actions will decide our fates.
I believe that the more beliefs and ideas humanity has the better! It encourages debate and shows we are thinking!Ultimately I believe cultural diversity is just as important as bio-diversity.But not “western” mickey mouse “monoculturalism” aka multiculturalism.The world already IS MULTICULTURAL!! We need to keep it that way!
BUT some Abrahamic monotheists seem to be cultural supremicists and wish us “non-believers” ill will and hold other cultures and philosophies in contempt,and seem bent on blowing up OUR planet so YOUR god can rule on Earth ,presumably with them at his side as “chosen ones”…or somewhere in the crowd.
The delusion of grandure is breathtaking .The disrepect for non-believers is unbelievable!!!!! AND IMHO UNACCEPTABLE! BUT of course its not THEM its God!?!…god always gets the blame ….BUT the hypocracy is also astounding as if they where to be treated in the same manner ,Jews ,Christian or Muslim ,we would never hear then end of it .BUT outragous claims need extreme evidence!And for Abrahamic monotheism there is no evidence,even after digging up the whole of Palestine ,but they still want to culturally rule and destroy the world.
Faith is a belief without evidence.So a discussion on faith is pointless.
Science finds evidence with which we can base our beliefs.We must be prepared to disgard beliefs that are UNTRUE!
A belief in an Abrahamic one god is in reality irrelevant, its like believing in Santa Claus.
BUT its Actions and effects are very very REAL.Abrahamic monotheism actions and effects on humanity include genocide ,cultural extermination, the burning of books and free thinkers,the spread of disease and slavery ,bigotry ,theft, paedophilia, and some are very determined to blow up the world!!
It brought us the Dark Ages , the Inquistion , witch burnings , book burnings ,crusades ,slavery .Can you list any benefits this belief system has brought to humanity?
BUT Surely Jews ,Christians and Muslims all worship the same god and believe the same stories of this god of “love”. Why are you not all loving brothers? ..and if god is all powerful and omnipresent he already rules the Earth! So what is going on?
So are you all insane?
Delsuional disorder also has good grounds for consideration. Being “touched by the gods” has always been slang for what we would call insane today . When we see the amount of political “clinical insanity” that goes on in government ,it is just as likely to manifest in religious institutions! Power corrupts and absolute powers attracks the absolutely corrput,secular or religious!
Study: Politicians share personality traits with serial killers
Kouri, who’s a vice president of the National Assn. of Chiefs of Police, has assembled traits such as superficial charm, an exaggerated sense of self-worth, glibness, lying, lack of remorse and manipulation of others.
These traits, Kouri points out in his analysis, are common to psychopathic serial killers.
Kouri notes that these criminals are psychologically capable of committing their dirty deeds free of any concern for social, moral or legal consequences and with absolutely no remorse.
“This allows them to do what they want, whenever they want,” he wrote. “Ironically, these same traits exist in men and women who are drawn to high-profile and powerful positions in society including political officeholders.”
A study of personality types once found that as a group, serial killers scored highest in “superficial charm, an exaggerated sense of self-worth, glibness, lying, lack of remorse and manipulation of others.” The other highest-scoring group for these undesirable traits? Politicians.
The following can indicate a delusion:
1.The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
2.That idea appears to exert an undue influence on the patient’s life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
3.Despite his/her profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
4.The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
5.There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
6.An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
7.The belief is, at the least, unlikely, and out of keeping with the patient’s social and cultural background.
8.The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of their psyche.
9.The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
10.Individuals who know the patient observe that the belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.
FeaturesThe following features are found:
1.It is a primary disorder.
2.It is a stable disorder characterized by the presence of delusions to which the patient clings with extraordinary tenacity.
3.The illness is chronic and frequently lifelong.
4.The delusions are logically constructed and internally consistent.
5.The delusions do not interfere with general logical reasoning (although within the delusional system the logic is perverted) and there is usually no general disturbance of behavior. If disturbed behavior does occur, it is directly related to the delusional beliefs.
6.The individual experiences a heightened sense of self-reference. Events which, to others, are nonsignificant are of enormous significance to him or her, and the atmosphere surrounding the delusions is highly charged.
Gods and governments are the GAGS on society.They are the power institutions that attract the corrupt . Its just population control and will quite possible be the cause of the death of mankind,even planet Earth. There are two types of secualr and religious oppressors,the active and the passive. The passive one just supports the idea either through deception , naievity ,peer pressure ,slow wits or unquestioning lazyness, the active ones take the reins of religious and secular power for themselves and enforces it in thier image! One is selfish and power hungery and possibly insane,the other a useful idiot to selfish power hungry people.
They quite often join forces against the population.Religious fascism joins secular fascism.BUT the secular power hungry are not so keen to destroy the world, this world is thier gravy train ,not the heavenly one to come. It is when insane fascist religious Abrahamic monotheists join with insane fascist secular military industrial complexs that the very survival of humanity and even planet Earth is at stake!!!!! If you see these people hanging around nuclear arsenals muttering scripture , SHOOT THEM ,like the mad dogs they are!!! They have NO RESPECT for YOU or your loved one , there is no need to show them any!
BUT Abrahamic monotheists all seem to know what god is thinking and it seems he always hates the same people they do! But he seems to say one thing to one version of Abrahamic monotheists and a different thing to another version of Abrahamic monotheists.So either they are mad and hearing voices in thier heads or..it seems god hates you all and is happy to slaughter you, but remember this is a shepard viewing sheep ,so what did you expect?! It’s what shepards do, sell, slaughter and devour sheep for a living,even the good ones! Apparently he collects foreskins and does real estate deals too.BUT there is NO archeological evidence of his stories and God according to the bible also thinks the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth, this also suggests his stories are untrue ,and when we are tripping over massive pagan temples all over the place, where is the Abrahamic monotheist relics! Try pointing out these FACTS and the Abrahamic monotheist gets very emotional.This certainly suggests DELUSION!
BUT I think others know its all a lie ,even popes have admitted this,and just use the religious institution for population control ,wealth accumulation and a cover for thier perversions and concider the “believers” useful idiots, and a flock of sheeple to be fleeced! The people I’m talking about are the modern Abrahamic monotheist Inquisition who keep the lie alive by the use of threats .blackmail and coersion. While they prop up dictators and protect paedophiles and continue spreading perfumed lies and blood soaked actions.
The modern Abrahamic monotheist inquisition is still alive and well. Book burning and witch hunting.
Removing chapters from the Golden Bough
Removing chapters from modern scientific DNA and immounology books.
Destroying ancient artifacts that disprove thier false beliefs
BUT its all in vain, thanks to science and archelogy,DNA and original texts ,all things that would damn you in a court of law ,even if you denied the charges ,WE KNOW WHO ,HOW and WHY your version of Abrahamic monotheism was INVENTED!!
Judaism ,was invented by Cyrus the Great c 450BC.Cyrus the Great was thier Messiah .It was Egyptian/Hyksos SET worship converted to Zoroastrianism and sent off to be a buffer state for the Persian Empire. ….So NO you are not gods chosen people, any more than Aryans are the master race!!!
Christianity was invented by Constantine the Great c325AD. It was monotheistic sun worshipped based around the Persian Ahruh Mazda/Mithras(Zoroastrian)beliefs, with Egyptian sun worship ,Greek philosophy and Druidic and Brahim influences. Hesus Krishna (aka Jesus Christ) was voted into existance 157 to 161 at the first council of Niceae. He was inventing a Roman Unified Religion for his newly unified Roman Empire.It was converted to messianic Judaism by the Byzantine Empire c787AD . Yes “christians” look at the ORIGINAL New Testamnet ,Jesus was NOT JEWISH!!
Islam was invented by Nestorian and Ebonite “heretics” who had lost a Byzantine power struggle.It was Quyrash moon worship converted to messianic Judaism.It went on to destroy the Byzantine and Persian Empires and marched into Europe ,spreading slavery!
SO Is Abrahamic monotheism the church of satan,the “anti-spiritual truth” ? are you being decieved by satanic powers?
Comparing Abrahamic monotheists to satanists is not something new or uncommon.Its just YOU as an Abrahamic monotheist would not hear such things.
The Cathars believed that the Vactican represented “Rex Mundis” material throne on earth.The Vatican failed to change thier minds in theological debate ,so they slaughtered every man ,woman and child ,to prove them wrong?!?!A stratagey they where to repeat adnauseum. Some Protestant Christians believe the pope is the anti-christ,but then some also thought burning women alive was next to “godlyness”. A lot of orthodox Judaic and Islamic Abrahamic monotheists think the same. But a lot of christian abrahamic monotheists think the same about Islam ,with its “satanic verses” or the Judaic “synagoge of satan”. The spread of Abrahamic monotheism in all its versions is the documented spread of genocide ,disease and slavery and the destruction of cultures and knowledge.
The FACT that ALL 3 versions of Abrahamic monotheism can be traced to a man and a motive ,the acquasition of material wealth and power, seems to be lost on its followers. It is basically re-written paganism and original fascism .Also there are not versions of atheists running around advocating the end of the world and the slaughter of other atheists,like the Abrahamic monotheists do!! Also There was NO satan before Abrahamic monotheism! So which “one god” do you worship? IMHO Unquestioning loyalty and blind obedience are not good personal traits and leave you open to deception!! Remember there is a big difference between knealing down and bending over ,and it is better to give than recieve as the Abrahamic monotheists like to say,are you just bending over and recieving gods love? BTW Shepards slaughter and feed off thier flocks, so being the sheep in this bargin is not a good deal either! And I am NOT sure blaming “god” for YOUR actions is really a good idea!
“Pagans” point out that Judo/Christian beliefs are copies that twist the meanings of the original texts.
Pagans believed in a Supreme Being ,that created mankind and the gods. Today Abrahamic monotheists believe the same thing except god is now the supreme being and the gods are called angels ,demons, devils,saints,cheribs etc.
In the original Sumerian texts of creation ,the texts that the old testament copies, it is the god Enki/Ea that creates mankind. He is then overpowerder by Enlil who tries to destroy mankind. It is Enki/Ea who then saves humanity and gives humanity knowledge.In Sumerian texts after the flood mankind agrees to control its breeding ,and NOT “go forth and multuply”.Enki’s symbol was the snake.Enlil is the usurper god worshipped in the judo/christian beliefs.
A lot of spiritual pagan people agrue that Abrahamic monotheism is just evil worship,designed to twist the truth and destroy true spirituality!
MYSTERY BABYLON Documentary – (what they do not want you to know)
A religious person explaining why Abrahamic monotheism(Catholic Christian branch) is actually worshipping the Anti-christ
The History Of The Devil
In this documentry we find Satan is a godlike being created by Abrahamic monotheists. Each claims the other has Satan as thier leader.
NOW A WORD FROM THE SATANISTS
“THERE IS NO GOD BUT MYSELF” “KNOWING THIS, WHO DARES WORSHIP THE FALSE GODS OF THE KORAN AND BIBLE?”
FROM THE QU’RET AL-YEZID
True Satanism is about elevating and empowering humanity, which was our True Creator (Satan’s) intention.
We know Satan/Lucifer as a real being.
We know Satan to be the True Father and Creator God of humanity.
We know “Yaweh/Jehova” of the bible to be a fictitious entity, and the people behind coercing this lie, to be the true deceivers of humanity and the masters of lies. This is evident in the many contradictions within the Judeo/Christian Bible, revealing this text to be the work of human beings who had occult knowledge and infused it with power to make it credible, and to incite fear in order to control.
We are law abiding.
We DO NOT advocate or participate in any blood or living sacrifice. This act is Judeo/Christian, as stated in their Bible- Deuteronomy 12:27:
“And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh.”
We have found Satanism is the original religion of humanity. We have done our research. Satanism is based upon the ancient religions that predated Judaism and Christianity from hundreds to thousands of years.
Christianity was a reaction to the original Pagan religions, labeled as “Satanism” meaning “enemy/adversary” in Hebrew. If you read through the information contained within this website, we prove this.
IT SEEMS EVEN SATANISTS THINK ABRAHAMIC MONOTHEISM IS EVIL!!!
Satanism seems to be a form of monotheistic paganism.They believe Abraham invented a false god! It also shows that Abrahamic monotheisms beliefs and rituals are taken from the older pagan beliefs.It also shows this Abrahamic belief is NOT monotheism but dualtheism at least? Also Abrahamic monotheists claim to be “monotheistic” but believe in a heirarchy of divine entities ,some adveserial. Therefore Abrahamic monotheisms religious philosophy makes no sense to me and could actually be the worship of the “fallen one”.BUT I am still an atheist and believe in neither satan or jehovah!
That is why I believe that Abrahamic monotheism is the opposite of Spiritual Truth
The multi’beliefs that show spiritual truth
Before Abrahamic monotheism different peoples would compare gods and even merge them, because they saw the same god just called a different name in a different culture, to me that sounds like a spiriual truth.Be it Australian aborigine ,American indian , Eskimo , Druid ,Hindu ,Persian,Aztec ,Egyptian ,Sumerian etc..all diferent cultural beliefs BUT ALL share a similar “spiritual truth”.Please look into the Proto-Indo-Europen religion and you will discover the true origins of even your religion. The Proto-Indo-European religion is the hypothesized religion of the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) peoples based on the existence of similarities among the deities, religious practices and mythologies of the Indo-European peoples.
This is one example of what I mean by “the more beliefs the better” and the “spiritual truth” that is found in each.
BUT Abrahamic monotheism is something completely different, it destroys the spiritual truth and the culture and replaces it with dogma and falsehoods, its just original fascism,that is why it keeps teaming up with secular fascism.It held humanity back for a thousand years! It destroyed truths and spread lies.Please look at its track record!
Truth can handle awkward questions.Its lies that need laws threats and unquestioning dogma to survive.
Paganism empowered the individual ,gods could be seen as archetypes that effected thier lives, fertility wealth ,weather, wine etc and the individual could negociate with these effects ,for all the good it did. BUT it did encourage individual thought and action.They could be concidered mental icons to meditate on. But should we all start worshipping the “old gods” and claim to be truely spiritual again? No ,I don’t think so.I don’t think it works like that.
If we can survive without the “true gods” ,then why do we need false ones?
Basically an Abrahamic monotheist is just an atheist that believes in one more god.If you can tell me why you do not believe in the other gods ,you have also just explained why I do not believe in yours.BUT an Abrahamic monotheist is more likely to commit a monstous act and blame it on an imaginary friend!Can you find spiritual enlightenment in Abrahamic monotheism , yes its possible ,but in theory a true spiritual person seeking enlightenment could have an epiphney walking into starbucks!So spiritual enlightenment like compassion ,decency ,tolerance and goodness all existed before Abrahamic monotheism and will still exist afterwards. These are human traits ,not religious or scientific in nature, there are no justice molecules or fairness atoms in the multiverse.
A belief in “god” is irrelevant, its a gods belief in YOU that would be relevant! SO be very aware if you advocate global destruction or paedophile protection or cultural supremecy in gods name,you might be pissing god off more than me!!!
BUT as I said belief is IRRELEVANT! Its your actions that count. People can believe the strangest things and still be decent good human beings.Some people believe god is an alien, and there is no harm in that either.Just because we do not share the same beliefs does not mean we do not share the same values. YOU do not have to justify your existance any more than the trees or the stars ,but be honest to yourself and others .You are here ,YOU are now ,YOU can make a difference. Strive to be good and happy!
That is all any god or man can ask.
Abrahamic monotheists cast your religious nets out and discover other belief systems and compare the similarities not the differences. Treat others as you would treat yourself. Start practicing what you preach. What do you have to fear but enlightenment?
I do not believe in Santa Claus BUT I still enjoy the winter solstace festivaties and try and be on his “nice list”
Gods or no gods , Peace on Earth and Goodwill to mankind is a very good idea!! So maybe we should stop talking about it and DO IT!!
REMEMBER humanities’ story began in mythology with an act of religious defiance, it may well end in reality with an act of religious obedience! ..and at the end of the day what has an all powerful god got to fear from a meer mortal.Personally I fear no gods ,its his followers that scare me!
A Merry Winter Solstace and a Happy New Year to everyone!
Violence breeds violence
education breeds understanding
Peace On Earth and Goodwill to Mankind!
P.S. As it is 2012 lets hope the Mayans where full of sh1t too 😉