THE USA AND UK ARE BANKRUPT
THEY HAVE SOLD AND DESTROYED THEIR MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY
AND REPLACED IT WITH SNAKE OIL SALESMEN(BANKERS AND INSURANCE SALESMEN) AND BURGER FLIPPERS
THIS IDEOLOGY COLLAPSED IN 2008
UNFORTUNATELY THE ELITE OF THIS IDEOLOGY WILL NEED TO START A WAR IF THEY WANT TO SURVIVE AND CONTINUE IN THE LIFESTYLE THEY ARE ACCUSTOMED TOO
US Analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.
This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.
In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”.
MH17 Brought Down by Air-to-Air Missile, Finished Off by 30-mm Cannon, Experts Allege
Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes — the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with “flechettes”, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.
Parry’s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.
Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.
Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.
In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: “The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days”.
“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview.
Parry had said that Bociurkiw’s testimony is “as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.
“That’s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,” Parry had said.
Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit.
“You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile.
“The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent — outwardly.”
He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner’s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane.
“It had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko’s main discovery. You can’t have projectiles going in both directions — into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides — unless they are coming at the panel from different directions.
“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.
By Haris Hussain
Evidence Is Now Conclusive: Two Ukrainian Government Fighter-Jets Shot Down Malaysian Airlines MH17. It was Not a ‘Buk’ Surface to Air Missile
The Malaysian Boeing plane that crashed in eastern Ukraine in mid-July, could have been brought down by an air-to-air missile and a cannon of the Su-25 fighter that had been “shadowing it,” The New Straits Times reported on Wednesday citing experts.
Experts believe that MH17 flight was shot down by an air-to-air missile fired from the fighter that later finished it off with a burst of 30mm cannon fire, the newspaper has reported.
According to the experts, if this hypothesis is true, it would explain the bullet holes in some sections of MH17’s fuselage.
“Some showed blast patterns consistent with shrapnel from a proximity-fused weapon while some showed the more precise grouping consistent with that of cannon fire. We’re analyzing this,” said one of the sources, adding that a detailed analysis of the pieces of the jetliner is needed to corroborate this emerging theory.
Under this new version, the heat-seeker would have aimed at the hottest part of the aircraft’s engines. These claims rule out the previous version that the aircraft had been downed by the BUK missile system (NATO SA-11 ‘Gadfly’).
“A BUK-M1, with its 70 kg head, would have been enough bring down the airliner without the need to go in for a guns kill,” the sources said.
The Sukhoi Su-25 close-air support aircraft (NATO Frogfoot) has a maximum service ceiling of about 25,000 feet (7,620 meters). It has an internally mounted 30mm cannon for anti-armor work, the report said.
“The Su-25 would have been operating at the extreme corner of its performance envelope but it’s entirely possible,” the sources added.
Five days after the deadly crash, the Russian Defense Ministry said that the “shadowing” the MH17 was a Russian-manufactured Sukhoi Su-25 close-air support aircraft operated by the Ukrainian Air Force.
The presence of the Ukrainian combat jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, said Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov, the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces.
The ministry’ s analysis of MH17 showed that the Russian air traffic control system picked up a deviation in the flight path of 14 kilometers north from the fixed corridor, well inside Ukrainian airspace, while following its assigned flight level of 33,000 feet.
This deviation in the flight path could have been performed only under the instruction of Ukraine’s air traffic controllers. Russian radar nets also picked up “activity” by the Ukrainian Air Force in the area at the time MH17 was airborne.
The air-to-ground transmission tapes between MH17 and Ukrainian air traffic controllers were seized by the Ukrainian Security Service on the day of the shootdown and have not been made available to investigators.
Media reports said earlier that the information provided by the black boxes from the Boeing plane, which have not been so far unveiled to public, said that the aircraft was damaged by multiple fragments of a missile.
By Ria Novosti
Global Research, August 07, 2014
THIS SHOULD COME AS NO SUPRISE
WE KNOW IT WAS THE KIEV NEO-NAZIS SHOOTING THEIR OWN SUPPORTERS AND BLAMING THE RUSSIANS DURING THE ARMED MILITARY COUP
SO WHAT WILL THE DUTCH GOVERNMENT DO?
WHAT WILL THE MALAYSIANS DO?
NOW THEY KNOW IT WAS THE NEO-NAZIS IN KIEV THAT SHOT DOWN THE PLANE
JUST LIKE THEY SHOT INNOCENT PROTESTORS BEFORE
AND IT WOULD SEEM THIS ACTION WAS PREMEDITATED
AND DONE WITH THE FULL BACKING OF THE USA
ALL AIMED AT BLAMING RUSSIA !
….SO WILL THE AMERICANS INVADE WESTERN NEO-NAZI UKRAINE TO SAVE FACE?
OF COURSE NOT!
THE NEO-NAZIS ALREADY RUN AMERICA
The Credit Crunch is a rerun of the 1933 Fascist Coup of USA and Germany
AND CONTROL THE UK POLITIONS
THIS PREMEDITATED WAR CRIME AND CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY WAS CARRIED OUT TO START A WAR
FOR THE BENEFIT OF WESTERN STATE CAPITALISM AND DISTRACT US FROM ZIONIST ISRAELI WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
BEWARE THE WESTERN NEO-CON NEO-NAZI WAR MONGERORS
THE AMERICANS ARE DESPERATE TO START A WAR WITH RUSSIA BEFORE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY COLLAPSES
OR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE START THEIR OWN REVOLUTION
The announcement by Barack Obama on July 31st to appoint John F. Tefft as the new U.S. ambassador to Russia is a warning to the Russian government of the intensions of western foreign policy planners. Tefft, who has worked for the State Department and the National War College in Washington, is an expert at planning colour revolutions to overthrow regimes targeted by the western elite. He is the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine where he was a key architect in preparing the Washington orchestrated coup in Kiev.
THE WESTERN WAR PROPAGANDA AND LIES CONTINUE
The latest Washington lie, this one coming from NATO, is that Russia has invaded Ukraine with 1,000 troops and self-propelled artillery.
How do we know that this is a lie? Is it because we have heard nothing but lies about Russia from NATO, from US ambassador to the UN Samantha Power, from assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland, from Obama and his entire regime of pathological liars, and from the British, German, and French governments along with the BBC and the entirety of the Western media?
This, of course, is a good reason for knowing that the latest Western propaganda is a lie. Those who are pathological liars don’t suddenly start telling the truth.
THE WEST, IN ITS CURRENT PREDICTABLE SITUATION HAS NO CHOICE.
ITS WAR OR DEATH FOR THE NEO-CON STATE CAPITALIST REGIME.
THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE YOUR POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVE IS A BLACKMAILED PEADOPHILE!
SO YOU WILL BE SOLD OR SLAUGHTERED BY THIS POLITION FOR THE BLACKMAILERS IDEOLOGY OR BENEFIT
THIS IS NOT A SYSTEM THAT IS BROKEN..IT IS THE SYSTEM REPEATING