SIMPLE TRUTH, Nuclear Reactors are NOT CHEAP , NOT SAFE and NOT CLEAN. Nuclear Reactors are PURELY FOR THE MANUFACTURE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!!
Where is the GOVERNMENT PROMISED ENERGY SO CHEAP IT WOULD BE UNPROFITABLE TO METRE!?!?!
“Nor are Britain’s civil nuclear power stations peaceful as for many years, and still possibly today, the plutonium they produce was sent to fuel the American nuclear weapons programme, making them into – what were in effect – bomb factories.
At no stage, as a minister, could I rely on being told the truth either by the Industry itself, or by my own civil servants”
Tony Benn ex-UK Technology Minister
Today we are being fed BIG government and BIG Business BIG BS about peak Oil , the Fuel crisis and nuclear energy!
SIMPLE TRUTH, oil is NOT a FOSSIL FUEL and is probably a renewable sourse, if we ran out of oil today we would put vegetable oil in our desiel motors tomorrow, cars where originally designed to run on HEMP OIL ,a CARBON NEUTRAL RENEWABLE FUEL SOURSE, they can still run on it today!
and instead of nuclear reactors we can run Thorium Reactors for cheap , clean safe energy , BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE CANNOT BUILD WMD’S WITH THE WASTE PRODUCTS or sell the depleted uranium, so Thorium reactors are NOT PROFITABLE FOR BIG BUSINESS AND THE DEATH INDUSTRY!!!
THE LIES STARTED IN THE 1950’s WITH ATOMS FOR PEACE.
The United States then launched an “Atoms for Peace” program that supplied equipment and information to schools, hospitals, and research institutions within the U.S. and throughout the world. The first nuclear reactors in Iran and Pakistan were built under the program by American Machine and Foundry.
THIS WAS A CLANDESTINE PR OPERATION OR A “CONSPIRACY” TO PROVIDE RAW MATERIALS FOR NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!
Eisenhower said, “atoms for peace.” And I became an advocate of civil nuclear power. I was told it was cheap, safe and peaceful. And having been responsible for it for many, many years, I learned from experience, it wasn’t cheap, with the cost of storage of nuclear waste and the research; it isn’t safe, because Chernobyl and Three Mile Island and Windscale and so on; and it wasn’t peaceful. But all the time it was motivated by the desire to build nuclear weapons.
IT JUST PROVIDED RAW MATERIALS FOR US,AND ISRAELI WMD’s
Former Labour MP Tony Benn on how Britain Secretly Helped Israel Build Its Nuclear Arsenal
We have an extended conversation with Tony Benn, one of Britain’s most distinguished politicians and the longest serving MP in the history of the Labour party. Benn discusses the new revelations the British government helped Israel build the atom bomb
MICHEAL MICHEALS ANOTHER ISRAELLI TRAITOR IN THE UK GOVERNMENT
According to de-classified government documents, a British government official named Michael Michaels oversaw the shipments behind the backs of his superiors. One of these superiors is our guest today. Tony Benn was Britain’s Minister of Technology at the time.
And, I mean, the example we’re just discussing was one. But I discovered after I left office, that without telling me, the plutonium from our civil power stations, what we called “atoms for peace power stations,” all the time was going to the United States for its weapons program. So, I’ve learned a lot from this. I’m now a passionate opponent of nuclear power and nuclear weapons, always was against nuclear weapons. But this story highlights the hypocrisy that lie behind so much of the comment about the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
THIS WAS ALL DONE RIGHT UNDER THE NOSES OF OUR POLITIONS!! THUS PROVING THEY ARE CHEERLEADERS NOT THE REAL LEADERS!!!IT ALSO SHOWS THE INFLUENCE OF THE ISRAEL LOBBY!!!
AMY GOODMAN -do you think Harold Wilson, the prime minister at the time you were technology minister, signed off on this, knew about what Britain was doing?
TONY BENN: I have no reason to believe he did. I would find it very hard to believe he had known.
IT IS THE USA, UK AND ISRAEL THAT HAVE BEEN, AND STILL ARE, IN TOTAL BREACH OF THE NON_PROLIFERATION TREATY ,NOT IRAN!!!!
TONY BENN: Well, you see, the United States and Britain are in total breach of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. The Non-Proliferation Treaty says three things. One, the nuclear powers will agree to disarm collectively. Secondly, that other countries can develop nuclear technology. And thirdly, that nuclear powers will give absolute assurances they will never use nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear state. And both the United States and Britain have now said that if their security was at stake, they would use nuclear weapons. What Bush has done—I don’t think you realize it—that make the case for the spread of nuclear weapons, because I tell you this, if Iran had nuclear weapons now, he would not dare to attack it. So, actually, Bush is encouraging the spread, and when he went to India the other day, which isn’t a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty, he signed an agreement. So, I mean, the thing is total hypocrisy.
IRAN IS BEING ACCUSED OF THE SAME FAKE LIES AS IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN!!
Second thing to say is that those three statements would justify Iran going to the Security Council and making a complaint that those three statements constituted a threat to them and a threat to world peace. Now, of course, with the veto, would never get it through, but that is something that if it were the other way round, supposing Iranian ministers had made that statement, Bush would have made a preemptive strike. And, you see, language is so important. And I think that it’s totally hypocritical, particularly as Britain and America are building new nuclear weapons and are defying the Non-Proliferation Treaty themselves.
MORE BLAIR LIES AND HIPOCRACY!!!
Blair says he wants a new generation of civil nuclear weapons, which—nuclear power stations, which is what Iran wants, and also he wants to upgrade the Trident missile, which is out of date. So, while Blair and Bush are planning nuclear power and nuclear weapons, which is in breach of the treaty, they’re then accusing Iran of being in breach of the treaty, which they’re not. Nobody has suggested that Iran is in breach of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
OBAMA AND THE UK COULD KILL THE WMD PLUTONIUM TRADE STONE DEAD TODAY WITH A SWITCH TO THORIUM REACTORS.BUT GOVERNMENTS LIKE THIER POPULATIONS KEPT IGNORANT AND SCARED. CONFIDENT AND INFORMED PEOPLE DO NOT WANT GOVERNMENT STICKING THIER NOSES IN THIER BUSINESS!!
Obama could kill fossil fuels overnight with a nuclear dash for thorium
If Barack Obama were to marshal America’s vast scientific and strategic resources behind a new Manhattan Project, he might reasonably hope to reinvent the global energy landscape and sketch an end to our dependence on fossil fuels within three to five years.
WE NEED TO MOVE FAST BEFORE RESOURSES BECOME AN EXCUSE FOR WAR, BUT IMHO WE ARE BEING HERDED INTO WWIII
We could then stop arguing about wind mills, deepwater drilling, IPCC hockey sticks, or strategic reliance on the Kremlin. History will move on fast.
Muddling on with the status quo is not a grown-up policy. The International Energy Agency says the world must invest $26 trillion (£16.7 trillion) over the next 20 years to avert an energy shock. The scramble for scarce fuel is already leading to friction between China, India, and the West
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET £16.7TRILLION?! WE ARE BUSY BAILING OUT FRAUDULENT IRRESPONSIBLE AND UNPROFITABLE BANKERS, IN THE FALSE BELIEF THEY HAVE “REFORMED”
There is no certain bet in nuclear physics but work by Nobel laureate Carlo Rubbia at CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) on the use of thorium as a cheap, clean and safe alternative to uranium in reactors may be the magic bullet we have all been hoping for, though we have barely begun to crack the potential of solar power.
Dr Rubbia says a tonne of the silvery metal – named after the Norse god of thunder, who also gave us Thor’s day or Thursday – produces as much energy as 200 tonnes of uranium, or 3,500,000 tonnes of coal. A mere fistful would light London for a week.
THORIUM IS CLEAN AND EATS ITS OWN WASTE!! SO NO NASTY RAW MATERIALS FOR WMD’s
Thorium eats its own hazardous waste. It can even scavenge the plutonium left by uranium reactors, acting as an eco-cleaner. “It’s the Big One,” said Kirk Sorensen, a former NASA rocket engineer and now chief nuclear technologist at Teledyne Brown Engineering.
“Once you start looking more closely, it blows your mind away. You can run civilisation on thorium for hundreds of thousands of years, and it’s essentially free. You don’t have to deal with uranium cartels,” he said.
ITS COMMONLY AND EASILY AVAILABLE
Thorium is so common that miners treat it as a nuisance, a radioactive by-product if they try to dig up rare earth metals. The US and Australia are full of the stuff. So are the granite rocks of Cornwall. You do not need much: all is potentially usable as fuel, compared to just 0.7pc for uranium.
WE HAVE KNOWN OF THORIUM SINCE THE 1940’s BUT THE WEST JUST WANTED TO MAKE NUCLEAR WEAPONS
After the Manhattan Project, US physicists in the late 1940s were tempted by thorium for use in civil reactors. It has a higher neutron yield per neutron absorbed. It does not require isotope separation, a big cost saving. But by then America needed the plutonium residue from uranium to build bombs.
“They were really going after the weapons,” said Professor Egil Lillestol, a world authority on the thorium fuel-cycle at CERN. “It is almost impossible make nuclear weapons out of thorium because it is too difficult to handle. It wouldn’t be worth trying.” It emits too many high gamma rays.
ANY ATTEMPT TO PROMOTE THIS SAFER AND CHEAP TECHNOLOGY IS REBUFFED!!
You might have thought that thorium reactors were the answer to every dream but when CERN went to the European Commission for development funds in 1999-2000,they were rebuffed.
Brussels turned to its technical experts, who happened to be French because the French dominate the EU’s nuclear industry. “They didn’t want competition because they had made a huge investment in the old technology,” he said.
Another decade was lost. It was a sad triumph of vested interests over scientific progress. “We have very little time to waste because the world is running out of fossil fuels. Renewables can’t replace them. Nuclear fusion is not going work for a century, if ever,” he said.
IT IS IGNORED AND BAD MOUTHED IN THE SAME WAY AS HEMP IS.HEMP COULD FUEL OUR CARS AND MAKE OUR PAPER AND TEXTILES TODAY!!
THE NORWEGIANS LEAD THE WAY IN THORIUM FUELS.
The Norwegian group Aker Solutions has bought Dr Rubbia’s patent for the thorium fuel-cycle, and is working on his design for a proton accelerator at its UK operation.
Victoria Ashley, the project manager, said it could lead to a network of pint-sized 600MW reactors that are lodged underground, can supply small grids, and do not require a safety citadel. It will take £2bn to build the first one, and Aker needs £100mn for the next test phase.
OF COURSE THE UK , A MASSIVE WEAPONS PROVIDER, IS NOT SO KEEN ON THORIUM REACTORS!!
The UK has shown little appetite for what it regards as a “huge paradigm shift to a new technology”. Too much work and sunk cost has already gone into the next generation of reactors, which have another 60 years of life.
So Aker is looking for tie-ups with the US, Russia, or China. The Indians have their own projects – none yet built – dating from days when they switched to thorium because their weapons programme prompted a uranium ban.
THORIUM SOLVES THE NON-PROLIFERANTION PROBLEM
Thorium also solves the non-proliferation problem. Nuclear non-proliferation treaties (NPT) prohibit processes that can yield atomic bomb ingredients, making it difficult to refine highly radioactive isotopes. But thorium-based accelerator-driven plants only produce a small amount of plutonium, which could allow the U.S. and other nations to skirt NPT.
The Telegraph says Obama needs a Roosevelt moment, recalling the famous breakfast meeting when Albert Einstein convinced the president to start the Manhattan Project. A thorium stimulus could be just what the lagging economy needs.
YOU CAN BET THE OIL AND WEAPONS INDUSTRY WANT THIS TECHNOLOGY STOPPED
The White House has approved $8bn in loan guarantees for new reactors, yet America has been strangely passive. Where is the superb confidence that put a man on the moon?
A few US pioneers are exploring a truly radical shift to a liquid fuel based on molten-fluoride salts, an idea once pursued by US physicist Alvin Weinberg at Oak Ridge National Lab in Tennessee in the 1960s. The original documents were retrieved by Mr Sorensen.
Moving away from solid fuel may overcome some of thorium’s “idiosyncracies”. “You have to use the right machine. You don’t use diesel in a petrol car: you build a diesel engine,” said Mr Sorensen.
Thorium-fluoride reactors can operate at atmospheric temperature. “The plants would be much smaller and less expensive. You wouldn’t need those huge containment domes because there’s no pressurized water in the reactor. It’s close-fitting,” he said.
Nuclear power could become routine and unthreatening. But first there is the barrier of establishment prejudice.
When Hungarian scientists led by Leo Szilard tried to alert Washington in late 1939 that the Nazis were working on an atomic bomb, they were brushed off with disbelief. Albert Einstein interceded through the Belgian queen mother, eventually getting a personal envoy into the Oval Office.
Roosevelt initially fobbed him off. He listened more closely at a second meeting over breakfast the next day, then made up his mind within minutes. “This needs action,” he told his military aide. It was the birth of the Manhattan Project. As a result, the US had an atomic weapon early enough to deter Stalin from going too far in Europe.
The global energy crunch needs equal “action”. If it works, Manhattan II could restore American optimism and strategic leadership at a stroke: if not, it is a boost for US science and surely a more fruitful way to pull the US out of perma-slump than scattershot stimulus.
Even better, team up with China and do it together, for all our sakes
FOLKS DO NOT BELIEVE THE SUBLIMINALS FROM CRIMINALS THAT IS THE PRESSTITUTES MAINSTREAM MEDIA RUT (REPEAT UNTIL TRUE)
YOUR (CHEER)LEADERS ARE LIARS
THEY LIE ABOUT THE ECONOMY , THE ENVIRONMENT , THE ENERGY CRISIS , THE WARS…..IN FACT YOU CAN EASILY SPOT WHEN POLITIONS ARE LYING…THIER LIPS MOVE!!!
WE NEED DIRECT DEMOCRACY ,INSTEAD OF REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY (aka ELECTED DICTATORSHIP) WE NEED LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISM
Discussing the difference between Direct (True) Democracy and Representative Democracy (elected dictatorship)
The Birth of Libertarianism , it grew from Anarcho Communism (its NOT a rightwing thing!)
Ture Democracy for Scotland ,a DIRCET DEMOCRACY INDEPENDENT SCOTLAND!